cam advice...

[ldyzluvdis06]

alright guys, i know its been beat all to hell with tons of threads but just to make sure...

i am back in the game and going cam. i have decided to jump on board with everyone and go with the XP cam. is there anything i need or any tricks/ advice to make the install go smooter?

what i know i need:
XP cam
NEW stock timing chain
90# springs
steel mod'd retainers
cam install kit

anything else?

the other mods will be:
TOG's, ported blower, intake. (more to come very soon (waiting on house tax credit ))

what size pulley do you think i could get away w/ for daily driving on a decent tune?

this is all being done on my $800 gtp w/ 190K miles...

who is down for helping!!

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[ldyzluvdis06]

well i just found a S1x for cheap....should i run that instead?

like i said guys i know this has been beat to hell but i want to do it right the first time so i dont have to again

 

[10sec]

First post sounds about right, you might need more parts depending on how things come apart for you at 190,000 miles stuff might not cooperate like a car with 1/2 the mileage. I would run a 3.3/3.4 without an i/c and a 3.1/3.2 with an i/c, keep it happy, keep it safe.

As for the s1x, great cam, if you found one with a deal, do it. I'm assuming it's used, which is awesome, but IMO (i didn't do this so i'm a hypocrite) i would always buy a cam new. It's so risky getting a used cam, which differentiates between people, since everyone has their own opinion. Every motor wears differently, especially with almost 200k i think you should get yourself a new one. If the one you found a deal on is new then disregard this entire half of my post

 

[shaferz]

I love my s1x. If you can get a deal, pick it up fo sho

 

[ldyzluvdis06]

First post sounds about right, you might need more parts depending on how things come apart for you at 190,000 miles stuff might not cooperate like a car with 1/2 the mileage. I would run a 3.3/3.4 without an i/c and a 3.1/3.2 with an i/c, keep it happy, keep it safe.

As for the s1x, great cam, if you found one with a deal, do it. I'm assuming it's used, which is awesome, but IMO (i didn't do this so i'm a hypocrite) i would always buy a cam new. It's so risky getting a used cam, which differentiates between people, since everyone has their own opinion. Every motor wears differently, especially with almost 200k i think you should get yourself a new one. If the one you found a deal on is new then disregard this entire half of my post

even if it has less than 20K?

 

[10sec]

IDK man... would you put someone else's crank in your car? I'm sure you're still paying close to $200-250 for it, what would you say to yourself it screwed stuff up and you needed a new motor over $100 difference in cost? By all means it could/will probably work fine, but sometimes saving a little extra money doesn't justify the risk to me. It's just my advice, i will not be offended if you take it or not so it's all good man.

 

[Handsome Jesus]

I run a used cam. I bought it when I was a mostly broke college kid.

It has worked really well for me. though lately I'm probably fucking it up daily, but it's still goin strong. rapin Stock F-bodies at 7AM

S1x makes power up to 6600 rpm too... and likes nitrous. XP likes smaller pullies

 

[The Broken Regal]

ive only see S1X cars run slower than rockered ones... weird, I know!

 

[Handsome Jesus]

I know I'm slower than panda... but faster than heavykevys rocker setup

 

[TraptPatriot]

My advice, whether you run the XP or the S1X, run 105# springs instead of 90.. Also, the timing chain is up to you, but personally I feel that is too much power on a single chain setup.

 

[Yaj Yak]

dont lots of 105s as of late break...

 

[TraptPatriot]

dont lots of 105s as of late break...

Only if you get Comp Cams ones... Never heard of a single one with Crow Cams.

 

[Yaj Yak]

ahh ok good clarification.

 

[ldyzluvdis06]

thanks for the advice guys...

so it was mentioned that the S1x likes nitrous and XP smaller pulleys. care to elaborate? i want to run spray but also like smaller pulleys because the power is there ALL of the time and i don't have to pay to refill a bottle. but i want spray for track days (when that time comes)


**when i buy everything free beer and food for anyone that wants to meet at my place for a "mod day"**

 

[shaferz]

My answer was this for my car:

s1x. early 90lb springs (but I dont have any other specs on them.) stock timing chain and dampener replaced with another new stock one. pull some timing. juice the fuck out of it.

 

[rocket69GTP]

Does anyone have a video with a said s1x cam in it? I have only heard the xp ones...:mepoke:
I would throw some of the viton valve seals in there with that mix. They are only about $20 for a full set IIRC....

 

[shaferz]

go to youtube and search for 'shaferz'

I am 100% sure I have some idle vids n stuff there somewhere.

 

[ldyzluvdis06]

are u running a dry or wet kit? what kind of shot?

**off topic** hows the xpz and heads going?

 

[TraptPatriot]

Honestly, IMO, you are looking to go too far too fast. You say you are close to 200k miles. That's ALOT of miles for a cam setup, even if you put in new supporting mods. I highly suggest you thinking about getting better supporting mods to. Better to get the good stuff now then need it later when you are broken down. Also, need to think about your trans.. Nitrous is going to fuck up your trans and your axles if they are stock.

But hey, it's your car...

 

[10sec]

200k is nothing, the motor is just broken in. There's no difference making 350whp on nitrous or 350whp with just a b/a setup, either way the trans isn't going to like it. Built trans? Still not going to like it, it's the name of the game and i'm sure he knows that. As for axles... first off stock axles are the best, so if they are gm axles he'll be fine, it takes quite a bit of power to actually break them, which i doubt he can/will with a stock trans anyways.

 

[ldyzluvdis06]

i agree... im not worried about 200K miles. and as for the trans...im not going to buy a built one when this one works fine. why fix something that isn't broken? once the stock one goes i will then see about doing something else. but as mentioned, either way no matter what trans no matter how many miles...SHIT BREAKs!

 

[shaferz]

Honestly, IMO, you are looking to go too far too fast. You say you are close to 200k miles. That's ALOT of miles for a cam setup, even if you put in new supporting mods. I highly suggest you thinking about getting better supporting mods to. Better to get the good stuff now then need it later when you are broken down. Also, need to think about your trans.. Nitrous is going to fuck up your trans and your axles if they are stock.

But hey, it's your car...

lol WHAT?

My trans lasted through a LOT of bottle fills. It actually lasted longer than what most non-nitrous guys had theirs last. My axles are still bonnnnnne fuckig stock.

 

[shaferz]

are u running a dry or wet kit? what kind of shot?

**off topic** hows the xpz and heads going?

Who?

 

[Fish]

The stock axles are actually really fucking good. Its the boots that sucks.

 

[ldyzluvdis06]

Who?

you!