3800 Exhaust decision

[ky04gt2]

Thanks for all of the help on the mods , it gave me a lot of ideas. I decided to go with a full exhaust first. I was thinking about a custom exhaust , from the local muffler shop, with 2.5" piping, and either flowmaster mufflers or magnaflow. I am looking for a deep sound out of it not to loud but still noticeable. Also has any one ever tryed the pacesetter headers on a n/a car like mine? And if i get an updated pcu from the wbody store do i send you mine or do they send me a new one and give me the money on the core when i send mine back? One more qeustion since i am new to the gp tuning world, I seen a shift kit on one of the websites, is it pretty harsh like catching second or is it even worth getting? Im looking to make my 04gt2 streetable , but still with a few more horses than stock,and wish it shifted a little harder.

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[Sinister Drag Designs]

FYI catbacks wont help much($ per pony) and will have a huge torque loss with those pasce setters. i think go with the headers and delete your u-bend.
mufflers for sound only, id leave the stock res and y alone. youd save some money on wasted stuff, when you cna get rockers or a cam for the saved money and people wont see it coming....
im sure fish would agree with that

 

[ky04gt2]

good tips thanks. Is there any kind of street driving loss with a cam for the grand prix?

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

id check with zzp, a stage 2 i belive is very streetable. plus you dont need head work. a TC and gearing should come after that. at this point you have at least a good FWI or CAI

 

[Fish]

Definatly dont waste money on a catback.

Headers with the downpipe, cat, and ubend should be all thats needed for the exhaust.

GT2 cam if you want to go with a high stall torque converter and gears. (Id go for it, but thats just me)

GT1 if you want the stock gears and TC setup.

Honestly, I play around with the pacesetter idea, but I dont know if Id recommend it. I myself would try it for the hell of it if I had money, but I dont recommend it.

 

[Xtant12]

Im all late about it... I say, well, they both are right.. It all depends on what set up you want to go with.. BUT, if your going to change your mufflers, GO MAGNAFLOW

 

[REDHOTT04GTP]

Originally posted by Xtant12@Sep 15 2006, 12:11 AM
Im all late about it... I say, well, they both are right.. It all depends on what set up you   want to go with.. BUT, if your going to change your mufflers, GO MAGNAFLOW

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MAGNAFLOW sound ricey if u ask me if u want a tone sound get flowmaster's I got them on my gtp with 3in to the Y and then 2.5 with 2 40 series mufflers and mine sounds like a v8 at idle but ass when u step on the gas alot

 

[syP]

flowmasters > magnaflow

 

[Xtant12]

1) MAGNAFLOW sound ricey if u ask me

WHAT, how much have you had to drink tonight.. I LOVE my rumble and I think That FLOWMASTERS are to much.. They sound so bad at WOT.. Mine dont..

ha..


2) but ass when u step on the gas alot


so true....



And SYP..


flowmasters <MaGnAfLoWs


what kind of exhaust do you have syp.. seriously I dont recall..

 

[REDHOTT04GTP]

Originally posted by Xtant12@Sep 15 2006, 12:47 AM
1)  MAGNAFLOW sound ricey if u ask me

    WHAT,  how much have you had to drink tonight.. I LOVE my rumble and I think That FLOWMASTERS are to much.. They sound so bad at WOT.. Mine dont..

ha.. 


2)  but ass when u step on the gas alot


  so true....



And SYP..


flowmasters  <MaGnAfLoWs


what kind of exhaust do you have syp.. seriously I dont recall..

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Whos car actually sounds better Jason lol :lolsign: and flowmaster;sa re chamberd diff then magnaflows

 

[Fish]

Magnaflow>slowmasters.
IMO, my Hooker Maxflows>slowmasters.

J/Os car sounds way better then Chads. Or maybe thats the TOGs that make the difference. :lolsign:

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Fish, who has Hooker Maxflows? J/O?

 

[REDHOTT04GTP]

Originally posted by Fish@Sep 15 2006, 01:01 AM
Magnaflow>slowmasters.
IMO, my Hooker Maxflows>slowmasters.

J/Os car sounds way better then Chads. Or maybe thats the TOGs that make the difference. :lolsign:

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I dont have TOG'S i got S&S

 

[Fish]

Originally posted by REDHOTT04GTP+Sep 15 2006, 01:18 AM-->

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@Sep 15 2006, 01:01 AM
Magnaflow>slowmasters.
IMO, my Hooker Maxflows>slowmasters.

J/Os car sounds way better then Chads. Or maybe thats the TOGs that make the difference. :lolsign:

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I dont have TOG'S i got S&S

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I never said you did. JO has TOGs. Since Mike likes to bring up your S&Ss. I thought this would be a funny. Man your dense sometimes.

I have hooker maxflows nick.

 

[REDHOTT04GTP]

Originally posted by Fish+Sep 15 2006, 02:06 AM-->

Originally posted by REDHOTT04GTP@Sep 15 2006, 01:18 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Fish

@Sep 15 2006, 01:01 AM
Magnaflow>slowmasters.
IMO, my Hooker Maxflows>slowmasters.

J/Os car sounds way better then Chads. Or maybe thats the TOGs that make the difference. :lolsign:

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I dont have TOG'S i got S&S

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I never said you did. JO has TOGs. Since Mike likes to bring up your S&Ss. I thought this would be a funny. Man your dense sometimes.

I have hooker maxflows nick.

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LOL how u figure im dense i wish i has TOG'S i bet id'e get a better performance gain ..but cant beat the deal i got on the S&S

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Originally posted by Fish+Sep 15 2006, 02:06 AM-->

Originally posted by REDHOTT04GTP@Sep 15 2006, 01:18 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Fish

@Sep 15 2006, 01:01 AM
Magnaflow>slowmasters.
IMO, my Hooker Maxflows>slowmasters.

J/Os car sounds way better then Chads. Or maybe thats the TOGs that make the difference. :lolsign:

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I dont have TOG'S i got S&S

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I never said you did. JO has TOGs. Since Mike likes to bring up your S&Ss. I thought this would be a funny. Man your dense sometimes.

I have hooker maxflows nick.

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Thanks Brian, your car sounds NICE, but n/a and s/c cars sound a little different..

 

[PANDA]

wow, some of you guys are telling him to buy headers, cam, stall converter etc. Total waste of money I think on a GT, the guy could probably buy a GTP with all that money spent on that stuff.

 

[Fish]

Originally posted by vipermike2002@Sep 15 2006, 07:55 AM
wow, some of you guys are telling him to buy headers, cam, stall converter etc. Total waste of money I think on a GT, the guy could probably buy a GTP with all that money spent on that stuff.

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Im not even going to start. If its not one LS1 or GTP owner I have to argue with, its another.

Seriously, this is the problem lately. He ASKED WHAT WILL MAKE A GOOD PERFORMER. NOT BUY A NEW CAR.

And PLEASE show me these parts will not work. Please. Show me that nothing makes the N/A 3800 faster then its 16 second ET that every fucking magazine gives it.

 

[xierxior]

gt's require to much money to make them fast you could save your self alot of money and time if you bought a gtp and could be going alot faster for alot less.

 

[Fish]

Originally posted by xierxior@Sep 15 2006, 10:41 AM
gt's require to much money to make them fast you could save your self alot of money and time if you bought a gtp and could be going alot faster for alot less.

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HEY!!! RETARDS!!!! POST SOMETHING USEFULL!!! I dont think its THAT hard now do you?? Or must you prove yourselves time and time again useless??

 

[Xtant12]

im back in.. I like to think of a GT as a different class.. You start at stock levels and MOD and see what you can come uo with.. Not to many people have GT's that push higher ... People dont play around with them.. They can be fast, you just have to put in the time as with any car....

 

[PANDA]

Im not even going to start. If its not one LS1 or GTP owner I have to argue with, its another.

Seriously, this is the problem lately. He ASKED WHAT WILL MAKE A GOOD PERFORMER. NOT BUY A NEW CAR.

And PLEASE show me these parts will not work. Please. Show me that nothing makes the N/A 3800 faster then its 16 second ET that every fucking magazine gives it.

In the first post ky04gt2 states that he wants "a few more horses than stock", oviously meaning he wants his car togo faster. You tell him to go buy headers, downpipe, GT2 cam, a high stall converter and gears. Not only do all those mods cost alot of money but the average guy also wouldnt be able to install them in his garage. A professional or somone that knows what there doing would have to install them. This costs even more money. All that shit plus labor to install would probably cost 4-5K. Spending that much to run what? 14's.. is a waste of money in my book.

 

[Fish]

What I did mike was answer his question. I did NOT tell him to sell his car or dont bother modding. Thats the difference.

 

[ThaLord]

STAY ON TOPIC!

This isn't a discussion about which is better a gt or gtp, it is about exhaust.

As Fish said "He ASKED WHAT WILL MAKE A GOOD PERFORMER. NOT BUY A NEW CAR."

Please stay on topic, or start a new topic.

 

[Bk4293]

This topic is very interesting to me also as my GP is n/a also.
I would live to find an old stock dual exhaust as I only have a single pipe coming out of the rear, and I believe I can get my hands on a new rear valence. I've already started the modding with a K&N, and looking for a bit more to do.

P.S., Knocking 2 seconds off any car will get you bragging rights...Especially if your still N/A when all said and done.