3800 Pulley Question

[MIKES3]

With my current setup: rockers, springs, W-Body IC, Headers, 85mm MAF, 3" DP I see about 10lbs of boost. What would I see with a 3.0 or a 3.2 pulley on this car?

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[Xtant12]

OOO YESSS!!! Not enough to BEAT me... :lolsign:

 

[MIKES3]

Originally posted by Xtant12@Jul 13 2006, 02:48 PM
OOO YESSS!!!  Not enough to BEAT me... :lolsign:

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Care to put a wager on that?

 

[Xtant12]

Originally posted by MIKES3+Jul 13 2006, 03:01 PM-->

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@Jul 13 2006, 02:48 PM
OOO YESSS!!!  Not enough to BEAT me... :lolsign:

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Care to put a wager on that?

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YOU....ME..... WENDYS.... Ill see you there...

 

[preussenGTP]

called the f*ck out!

My GTP will whoop both yer asses - "Let's get it on!!" B)












syP care to bring the SLO? (or the Sony )

 

[phat_ridegt]

i dont know about a gen v, but if you were making 10lbs w/ a gen 3, then dropped to a 3.0 id guess it would be around 13-14...ONLY a guess tho. if you have a mps, just swap it, and check it out

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

13-14 is about right for a 3.0, do you have a cat, you will have lower boost with out a cat

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Originally posted by SINr247@Jul 13 2006, 06:58 PM
13-14 is about right for a 3.0, do you have a cat, you will have lower boost with out a cat

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He has no cat IIRC.

 

[syP]

ill whoop your ass in my SHO bitch.


ill bring the sony

 

[GTPquickRB]

Im saying MIKES3 kicks Xtant's ass with a 3.0

Get it running right and you'll be flying

 

[MIKES3]

Originally posted by syP@Jul 13 2006, 08:42 PM
ill whoop your ass in my SHO bitch.


ill bring the sony

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bring it Friday night

 

[Fish]

How does a GTP with rockers and ported manis beat a car with a gen 5, intercooler, headers and rockers?? I dont understand.

 

[preussenGTP]

Originally posted by syP@Jul 13 2006, 09:42 PM
ill whoop your ass in my SHO bitch.


ill bring the sony

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[imported_1fastGTP]

just like mike will get owned by me! muahahaha we have to see! and xtant well u dont even need to say a thing bout him... :lol:

 

[MIKES3]

Originally posted by Fish@Jul 13 2006, 11:35 PM
How does a GTP with rockers and ported manis beat a car with a gen 5, intercooler, headers and rockers?? I dont understand. 

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GEN Vs dont take the mods as well as a GEN III, but I wont loose. Dont you worry. I killed about 3-4 degrees of knock just with the IC installed. I think thats good for another 2-3 tenths off the 1/4 mile time plus when I ran at the track I was not even close to being tuned

 

[preussenGTP]

Originally posted by Fish+Jul 13 2006, 11:35 PM-->

How does a GTP with rockers and ported manis beat a car with a gen 5, intercooler, headers and rockers?? I dont understand. 

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GEN Vs dont take the mods as well as a GEN III, but I wont loose. Dont you worry. I killed about 3-4 degrees of knock just with the IC installed. I think thats good for another 2-3 tenths off the 1/4 mile time plus when I ran at the track I was not even close to being tuned

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Anything can happen on the street, Mike. I'd love to run you AND Shaun.
If it rains tonight i'm not going out. Whaddya say?

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

how does a gen 5 not take mods as well...the only mods for a gen 5 are porting,maching the snout and changing a pulley.what is it that a gen 3 can do over a gen 5 mod wise.............they are the same(mod wise) except for obvious slight design changes to help flow temps. unless your talking series 3 vs series 2
then yes your right

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Originally posted by SINr247@Jul 14 2006, 02:46 PM
how does a gen 5 not take mods as well...the only mods for a gen 5 are porting,maching the snout and changing a pulley.what is it that a gen 3 can do over a gen 5 mod wise.............they are the same(mod wise) except for obvious slight design changes to help flow temps.  unless your talking series 3 vs series 2
then yes your right

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You're both wrong! The Series 3 should be able to take mods better then the Series 2/Gen 3 with its Gen V blower, and other updates from the factory over the Series 2/Gen 3.. its the PCM that sucks the fun out of the game.

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

no series 3 has been taken as far as a series 2 has so your theory is a little whacky. in theory it might be better. except for the fuel system,TB,and maf
and no seperate performance shift table,and like you said other things in the pcm

 

[MIKES3]

Well, for one the fuel system on our car sucks IMO. 10x better on the pre 04s. WHat I mean by the GEN IIIs take the mods better is that for some reason they the they produce more power. Like Nick said a lot of it is in the PCMs. Our PCMs are a totally different animal. Lots more torque management, but no excuses

My cars still fast and I'm gonna roll right by most of you :lolsign:

 

[imported_1fastGTP]

Originally posted by MIKES3@Jul 14 2006, 02:06 PM
Well, for one the fuel system on our car sucks IMO. 10x better on the pre 04s. WHat I mean by the GEN IIIs take the mods better is that for some reason they the they produce more power. Like Nick said a lot of it is in the PCMs. Our PCMs are a totally different animal. Lots more torque management, but no excuses

My cars still fast and I'm gonna roll right by most of you :lolsign:

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its on mike! who beat who at the track!? not to mention 1st time running haha. but yea it will be good. when my stuff goes on u better get use to seeing red silver and black bumper! :lol:

 

[MIKES3]

Originally posted by 1fastGTP+Jul 14 2006, 02:37 PM-->

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@Jul 14 2006, 02:06 PM
Well, for one the fuel system on our car sucks IMO. 10x better on the pre 04s. WHat I mean by the GEN IIIs take the mods better is that for some reason they the they produce more power. Like Nick said a lot of it is in the PCMs. Our PCMs are a totally different animal. Lots more torque management, but no excuses

My cars still fast and I'm gonna roll right by most of you :lolsign:

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its on mike! who beat who at the track!? not to mention 1st time running haha. but yea it will be good. when my stuff goes on u better get use to seeing red silver and black bumper! :lol:

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DONT YOU WORRY. I have a surprise h34r:

 

[REDHOTT04GTP]

My cars still fast and I'm gonna roll right by most of you

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its on mike! who beat who at the track!? not to mention 1st time running haha. but yea it will be good. when my stuff goes on u better get use to seeing red silver and black bumper!

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DONT YOU WORRY. I have a surprise h34r:

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LOL u all are gonna be seeing me blowing right by u all tho with my SURPRISE I GOT COMING h34r:

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Originally posted by SINr247@Jul 14 2006, 03:02 PM
no series 3 has been taken as far as a series 2 has so your theory is a little whacky. in theory it might be better. except for the fuel system,TB,and maf
and no seperate performance shift table,and like you said other things in the pcm

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I said engine.. Your right no series 3 has been taken as far because people are having one helluva time fighting the PCM. I know the fuel system is a pain in the ass as well, but that just means you upgrade it sooner. Jamhoney, Kneivel, and Charles are good examples of.. M90 modified, Turbo modified, and Turbo "stock". The only problem is that GM decided to make things more complicated by adding more "new" features, and making the coding harder to break.

Once you fight the fuel system, and the overly touchy PCM, you'll have a beast. The engine is all around better with its upgraded balancer, connecting rods, and L32 heads that flow just a smidge better then L67 heads. Plus the Gen V and its efficency, according to Zooomer is higher then a PORTED Gen 3.

Whats wrong with the MAF? people upgrade them because they are out flowing the MAF ceiling with a few mods, blame that on the Gen V and its efficency. I know the TB is electric so you cant just swap in another unit that uses a cable. I will give you that. Performance shift table is just a little neat thing to have, otherwise the PCM detects your going WOT and adjusts accordingly like every other car on the market.

Overly touchy PCM + Much more efficent blower = KR.
You just have to put more money into "flow" mods, and get a tune to get rid of the KR. Not as easy as a 97-03 car, where you can slap on a 3.4, PEMS, DP, FWI, Generic tune, and get no knock.

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

LOL u all are gonna be seeing me blowing right by u all tho with my SURPRISE I GOT COMING h34r:

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ill still give you a 3 second head start like last time. i think ken might have to give you car lenth or two