3800 XP Cam Install

[REDHOTT04GTP]

Well ppl im on my way to Millers house(bumpinGTP) to get my XP cam,105 springs and retainers and,shift kit, and MPS w/3.0 pully wish me luck guys

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[preussenGTP]

lookin for 14's eh, Chad?

 

[PANDA]

Your gonna run a 3.0 with no IC?

 

[dole21]

Originally posted by vipermike2002@May 30 2006, 08:07 PM
Your gonna run a 3.0 with no IC?

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I ran a 3.0 with race gas at the track saw less than one degree on 4 of my runs..but otherwise was ok

Now...no race gas is a diff story...lol

1x cam
Togs rt downpipe
103's
160 tsta
FWI
DHP
Iccu

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

on stock injectors for that matter, on an 04 returnless fuel system, no fp rewire
should be intresting

 

[phat_ridegt]

i ran a 3.0 with race gas non ic'd, with dole's mods but stock cam. boost stacking like a mofo im sure, but with a can of torco, 0kr w/ 950 o2's...15psi lol. no good, chad make sure you scan that thing. that gen 5 would be like putting a 2.8 pulley on a gen3 car

 

[MIKES3]

Chad, Go here for the injectors. Go under "The Market" then go under
"Parts for Sale". Then go under "Terminator Parts For Sale"


http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=242

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

yeah he has to get one of those too. bigger pulley i say till headers

 

[imported_1fastGTP]

chad doesnt like listening to what people say.... thats y i said a few days ago... ur going to run a 3.0 with less mods than me? id stick with a 3.2 if anything untill u get headers like bob said.

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

3.0 with cam is fine, but headers would be a plus. A cam will lower the dynamic compression of the motor. 12 psi of boost on a stock cam, would be around 10 on a cammed car.

 

[REDHOTT04GTP]

Originally posted by Ron Vogel@May 30 2006, 10:36 PM
3.0 with cam is fine, but headers would be a plus. A cam will lower the dynamic compression of the motor. 12 psi of boost on a stock cam, would be around 10 on a cammed car.

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U ppl dont seem to realize i have a gen 5 diff then your gen 3's ,And another i wouldent of got the 3.0 pully unless i asked Ron and Miller and Mike.k And zoomer from zzp and thay all said 3.0 is fine with my car with the cam

 

[Fish]

Originally posted by Ron Vogel@May 30 2006, 10:36 PM
3.0 with cam is fine, but headers would be a plus. A cam will lower the dynamic compression of the motor. 12 psi of boost on a stock cam, would be around 10 on a cammed car.

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FWIW, Ive never seen an 04+ run a 3.0 non ICed with stock manifolds. And if it did, the run was INTENSEly short. :lolsign:

 

[Xtant12]

Man I cant wait.. I wish I was you right about now.. The dash looks awesone.. I have a bit more ideas to put it over the top... Cant wait till friday...

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

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@May 30 2006, 10:36 PM
3.0 with cam is fine, but headers would be a plus. A cam will lower the dynamic compression of the motor. 12 psi of boost on a stock cam, would be around 10 on a cammed car.

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FWIW, Ive never seen an 04+ run a 3.0 non ICed with stock manifolds. And if it did, the run was INTENSEly short. :lolsign:

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duration>flow of port...

lots of good things happen with duration, I don't think most people realize that. Flow/lift numbers are for one fixed amount of time. If you increase the duration of the event, the ports will flow well enough to limp along. Yes, it will make more power with headers, but generally he will be safe running it like that as long as the tune is conservative.

 

[imported_1fastGTP]

so that means when i toss my cam in this summer ill be able to toss a 3.0 on as well? cuz now im getting kinda confused on some of this. For the Gen 5 putting a 3.4 is like putting a 3.2 on the gen 3? thats what some of you guys are making it seem.... let me know thanks.

 

[MIKES3]

Originally posted by 1fastGTP@May 31 2006, 07:15 AM
so that means when i toss my cam in this summer ill be able to toss a 3.0 on as well? cuz now im getting kinda confused on some of this.  For the Gen 5 putting a 3.4 is like putting a 3.2 on the gen 3? thats what some of you guys are making it seem.... let me know thanks.

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THe GEN V blowers are more efficient than the GEN IIIs . Larger inlet/outlets obviously help the flow of the air hence making more boost. For example I see up to 11.5 lbs of boost with my 3.4 pulley. Yes thats equivelant to the same boost you would see with a 3.2 pulley on your car.

 

[MIKES3]

Originally posted by 1fastGTP@May 31 2006, 07:15 AM
so that means when i toss my cam in this summer ill be able to toss a 3.0 on as well? cuz now im getting kinda confused on some of this.  For the Gen 5 putting a 3.4 is like putting a 3.2 on the gen 3? thats what some of you guys are making it seem.... let me know thanks.

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The GEN V blowers are more efficient than the GEN IIIs . Larger inlet/outlets obviously help the flow of the air hence making more boost. For example I see up to 11.5 lbs of boost with my 3.4 pulley. Yes that's equivalent to the same boost you would see with a 3.2 pulley on your car.

 

[BumpinGTP]

Honestly I think we should hold off on the 3.0 right now, until you get some injectors. Without the proper injectors, and your driving style you will be popping pistons like jiffy pop.

 

[MIKES3]

Originally posted by BumpinGTP@May 31 2006, 11:13 AM
Honestly I think we should hold off on the 3.0 right now, until you get some injectors. Without the proper injectors, and your driving style you will be popping pistons like jiffy pop.

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LOL.. Yeah I think we all know Chads sriving style. I'll have to agree with Miller. I think he ordered Cobra 39 lb injectors. I can tune those install/tune those in for him. Will that be enough injector for a 3.0? I assume yes because the Cobras come with a 2.8 pulley stock.

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

dif blower and motor, yeah chad you were almost out of injector with your current
as you keep saying your gen 5s push cooler air in, which means you need more fuel... why would the blower matter unless it was pushing less/hotter air. that has nothing to do with fueling.
and no if chad is putting a ic and headers on with gen 5 he will need atleast 42's,
heads and such will just put a bigger demand then that.

and whats the deal with the 04 gtp fuel pump. is it the same as the 97-03 l67 or is it the l26/l36 pump

 

[imported_1fastGTP]

ok for the GEN 5 i can just take off my GEN 3 and just put that one on? or does it need modifications? If its direct swap then i may end up doing that later on.

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

you need the LIM from the gen 5 and the TB adapter. not worth the hassle. if you are going to change power adders go whipple or csc. dont waste your money or effort with that little of an upgrade. you wont be installing it yourself so you will be spending some loot. and your ic and cam you want will still work.
go big or go home you will spend close to the same in the end
id use your N20 kit before id go that route(money wise)

 

[REDHOTT04GTP]

Honestly in my oppinion Nos is Fake Hp and its something for Ricers becasue there Engins can make enough power So they use N20 to get to the hp of a stock gtp in a honda civic SI case but yeah N20 is fake hp and i wouldent even touch my car with N20

 

[ernrcr3]

Originally posted by REDHOTT04GTP@May 31 2006, 04:18 PM
Honestly in my oppinion Nos is Fake Hp and its something for Ricers becasue there Engins can make enough power  So they use N20 to get to the hp of a stock gtp in a honda civic SI case but yeah N20 is fake hp and i wouldent even touch my car with N20

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Chad, when/where are you doing this... maybe i'll stop by and check out the progress... Call me.

-ern

 

[Sinister Drag Designs]

Originally posted by REDHOTT04GTP@May 31 2006, 04:18 PM
Honestly in my oppinion Nos is Fake Hp and its something for Ricers becasue there Engins can make enough power  So they use N20 to get to the hp of a stock gtp in a honda civic SI case but yeah N20 is fake hp and i wouldent even touch my car with N20

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i guess all the 4&5 sec. n/a big blocks funy cars are making fake horsepower.
fake horsepower makes your average 5.0 and ls1's get into 11's pretty easily.
you have to look at the long run part of it. if shaun wants to get rid of his car in a year or so, thats 400 extra bucks he has to spend just to sell the car as stock.
spray will get him his 12's easier then a cam will 20-30hp vs 55-100 , and its less stress on the tranny if its only second gear use

besides all that did you find injectors yet chad