3800 Dodge Stealth vs. Grand Prix

[imported_Xerxeis]

So my friend in his little Stealth with only intake and exhaust says he can take on any GTP and win....

He thinks he has 250 hp, which is 10 under a GTP, but he swears up and down he beat a GTP.

What can i do to shut this mofo up? I know my GT doesnt have crap on him, but i still give him s*it for it anyways

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[Mikes1998GTP]

First of all, if it were gtp's from 97-03, they were rated at 240hp stock. Is his stealth manual? I'd say tell him to talk to SyP and let's see them race!! I know Ryan would take him for sure!! haha!

or better yet, lets plan another race day in the next month and invite him out, then we'll see who shows...

 

[syP]

lammme

 

[Fish]

Unless its a turbo stealth, I wouldnt even waste gas. And if he thinks he has 250HP, its not a turbo stealth.

 

[syP]

how much hp do turbo stealths have

 

[Fish]

320. The stealth is sister of the 3000GT.

 

[imported_Xerxeis]

yah just the 220 dohc, non turbo, manual

he's all talk, but he wont race because he's got 2 tickets already, one for 78 in a 30 :lolsign:

 

[Fish]

IIRC the non turbo 3000GT/Stealths run 15s. Nothing a lightly modded GT cant handle.

 

[Kyle]

those things are heavy as hell too, and i ASSume they are lacking in torque so Id bet even a stock gtp would beat it driven correctly.

 

[PANDA]

The non-turbo ones are pretty slow, because they are so heavy, like 3800+ pounds.

 

[imported_Xerxeis]

This F*cker's pissing me off...I just wanna sledgehammer his hood in :angry: h34r:

I invited him to join us on june 16 for our fake gpg race day...he'll probably puss out

 

[chipmonk212121]

is he even any good at drivin manual

 

[imported_Xerxeis]

Cant say, just seen him sputtering around town

 

[Xtant12]

WELL, If syp doesnt want to waste his gas i will do it.. Here is a thought... Syp, heads or tails....

 

[imported_Xerxeis]

http://www.myspace.com/str8stealth

thats his myspace, give him hell

 

[chipmonk212121]

after seeing the main page of his myspace....... he doesnt need any help from us to make him look bad lol

 

[imported_Xerxeis]

Well, I decided to beat a dead horse...again and again....


Today, we raced again...

after my exhaust mods, he's having a little trouble pulling on me. he ended up passing me at about 105, so I believe i'd still win on the 1/4 mile

but now questioning engines....

his vs mine
3.0L 3.8L
222hp 200hp
217lb-ft 225lb-ft
2982cc 3785cc
10.0:1comp ratio 9.4:1
3373LB curb weight 3378LB

shouldnt the bigger engine have more power?

now the question...

his-24v DOHC mine-12 OHV


Does those OH cams really make that much of a difference?

 

[Fish]

Alot of different factors play. Gears, tuning, mods, engine setup. N/A Stealths are dogs. I messed around with them in my old 3.1 STE.

 

[Xtant12]

So my friend in his little Stealth with only intake and exhaust says he can take on any GTP and win....

He thinks he has 250 hp, which is 10 under a GTP, but he swears up and down he beat a GTP.

What can i do to shut this mofo up? I know my GT doesnt have crap on him, but i still give him s*it for it anyways
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well Im 256 WHP with a tweaked dhp tune from Dyno pro.. Ill give him a shot..

 

[audiogob654]

your not going to get far with that tranny jason... so ill do it

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So my friend in his little Stealth with only intake and exhaust says he can take on any GTP and win....

He thinks he has 250 hp, which is 10 under a GTP, but he swears up and down he beat a GTP.

What can i do to shut this mofo up? I know my GT doesnt have crap on him, but i still give him s*it for it anyways
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well Im 256 WHP with a tweaked dhp tune from Dyno pro.. Ill give him a shot..
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[Xtant12]

your not going to get far with that tranny jason... so ill do it
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So my friend in his little Stealth with only intake and exhaust says he can take on any GTP and win....

He thinks he has 250 hp, which is 10 under a GTP, but he swears up and down he beat a GTP.

What can i do to shut this mofo up? I know my GT doesnt have crap on him, but i still give him s*it for it anyways
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well Im 256 WHP with a tweaked dhp tune from Dyno pro.. Ill give him a shot..
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OUCH...


Ill sit this one out... your right... Good looking out...

 

[imported_Xerxeis]

HA! He admits the power of the GTP. And interested in race day :-D but needs alittle paragraph structuring...

i agree with the blasphemy part, its not a gto, and its a disgrace to call it that, but it really is a good platform tho, handles great, great power curve, and shit that thing drifts amazingly well...but still, it looks like a oversized cavalier i will admit. and the exhaust leak wouldnt hurt that much like i mentioned, but it does mess up ure back pressure, right up next to the headers and its only on one runner so have the cylinders are goin all the way through and half are coming right out of the engine practically, and its throwing off my oxygen sensor and its revin kinda weird. but yea, ill deff be ready by may. i drove a gtp yesterday. jenis old one, its green by lincoln school, my girlfriends dad was looking for her a car so i testdrove it for him. got to admit, its got alot more torque off the line itd deff beat mine, from a roll tho i think id easily walk away, but maybe not. but i do have alot more respect for the platform after driving it. but they, like my car, are front wheel drive which isnt my thing. but yea, get me some more info on the track day.
str8 [/b]

he thinks he knows cars, but he's just feeding a line of BS...but if i can get him to Byron... :lolsign:

 

[thebullfrog]

Yeah, way back when when I had my non turbo 89 Eclipse I pulled on a 3000GT SL. They're crap. Theyre about 500 pounds lighter than the VR-4 so it helps a bit, but not enough. Now with twin turbo and AWD, we're talking mid 13's from the factory after '93. Before that it's low 14's. I actually want a VR-4/ Stealth R/T TT BAD, but it'll never happen. Waaaay overpriced. He's able to pull you at higher speeds because the older 6G72 (before they started putting it in the Eclipse) has killer top end. That's where those engines really shine. The L67...not so much. But we get the low end torque. In the 1/4 though yeah, you'd take him no prob. Damn Mitsu/DSM roots showing through again lol.

 

[Silvapain]

DOHC plays a big role in Hp numbers from an engine. Less drivetrain parasitic loss. OHC engines also rev up quicker, and have a higher max RPM. The fact that he has twice the valves also gives his engine an advantage.

If it makes you feel any better, my N/A 3.4L DOHC V8 has almost the same Hp as my F/I 3.8L V6. Go figure.

 

[imported_1fastGTP]

i ran a vr-4 2 months before i went turbo. had the cam and everything. we were at a light, i didnt think much of it. i thought hey just a regular 3000gt... nah i was wrong. i shredded him off the line(he prolly threw me the hit), then i start seeing him come up on me to almost my bumper...he came up next to me i asked him what he had cuz i never heard of a vr-4 and he told me it was twin turbo... and i was impressed. he said he had exhaust and somethen else mild done. he followed me on the highway... yikes. he let me take the hit at 60mph and once we got up to about 80 or so... he is about a car ahead of me still pullen slowly... it was good stuff. now id like to see him again