3800 looking at gettin a SSIC

[syP]

to install the kit with no problems.... besides gettin a different s/c belt...

is the ONLY thing i need to buy extra,... the injector spacers from ZZP
http://zzperformance.com/products1.php?id=273

just dont wanna get it all here and be ready to install it, then have issues with the fuel lines.

What are my options for the fuel rails? I dont know much about fuel rails..

is it like, either i get spacers or i cut them?

TIA

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[superchargedgp]

with your knock i wouldnt get anyhing other than ZZP or thrasher FULL SIZE IC

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

Before you go and do an IC, I would isolate any radiating heat in your engine compartment as possible. KR is bad, but in this weather it's going to suck on any non-ic'd car to keep it down. Even with an IC I stay out of the throttle during the day as much as possible.

SS IC would be fine, but a full size IC would be better. Any of the full-size IC's will be good, I'd go for what's best for the money either new or used.

 

[Mike K]

Figure out why you have knock first. An intercooler is only going to mask a pre-existing problem. With a 3.4 pulley and a cam you should not have knock.

 

[MIKES3]

what about alky injection. Is that an idea, because I know that will kill the KR and is a little less expensive, but if you got the dough get the IC.

 

[Kyle]

Originally posted by Mike K@Jun 6 2005, 01:10 PM
Figure out why you have knock first.  An intercooler is only going to mask a pre-existing problem.  With a 3.4 pulley and a cam you should not have knock.

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yeah i agree, there is definetly a prob if i can run the same setup with a 3.0 and not knock.

 

[syP]

anyone willing to help find out my knock problem them.


$$$ to the finder?? heh

 

[rjaz gtp]

syP the SS IC is a great mod for the cost. It truly does help take your KR down, but the only thing I would worry about in your case is why are you seeing so much knock up front? I would be leary of just slapping an IC on to elimante your current knock, cause somewhere within your motor those problems will still lurk...

Take some time and go through some of your mods and do some trouble-shooting. I think in the end it will be most beneficial to you and your car...

In regards to the SS IC and the parts you will need:

SS IC kit from ZZP
ZZP fuel injector spacers (you can also cut them or use PRJ's)
Depending on the size pulley you run you will need a new belt
I would also get a new pump, the ZZP pump with worthless (W-Body Pump)
If you want to put it on a switch then you will need that and a 12V relay
In addition you will need a few fittings from Menards

Most people running a full size IC will always say go the bigger route, if money is not an option that go for it. It also depends on how far you are wanting to take your modding...

 

[Fish]

Unless you wanna be where you were a month ago, look into your engine problem.

As far as the SSIC, Id say its the best bang for buck. People have netted really good times with it.

 

[gtphale]

I thought that once you pulled the tb off your knock went away?

 

[GTPPWR]

no....subsided a bit.

I had scanned his car on a decently smooth road, and he had spikes up to mid 5's....but mostly stayed around 2.3-3.3.....and only around 4200-5700rpms.

 

[Royalgtp]

im selling my BTK IC and PRJ fuel rails very soon.....


1000 for the IC-an fittings, steelbraided lines, HD pump...
system bleeds itself and looks proffesionally done.........

no garden hoses here! :lolsign:


225 for the Fuel rails....

 

[syP]

yea im gonna fix my exhaust leaks then try to tune it again with the 3.2 and see what happens... but the SS ic is in the near future

 

[phat_ridegt]

i have the ssic and imho it was not worth the money. w/ a 3.2 pulley w/ 3"dp and 2.5" exhaust, dhp, 104's cai and 160* i still see 2*kr....w/ a can of torco and no KR w/ a 3.0 pulley i only ran 13.71 @101mph...that was with a 2.001 60'. the stock pump with that kit is horrible...ive been through of two of them...i would say upgrade to the bigger pump from the start. that may be my problem with all of it...i am upgrading next week...and to answer your question....either fuel rails or the injector spacers are needed...and nothing else....

however it was a very simple install compared to the w-body store's one..a friend of mine who did that one also has a helluva time getting the wiring harness's all together....

 

[GTPPWR]

well he had no KR on a 3.1 last night in Schaumburg.....but still felt it wasnt all there.

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

Well, I can tell you his PCM file looks "funny" and I said it before. Last night I set up a bin file for him, because I thought he was coming by. I went through his DHP bin, and it looks weird. I sent this file to Charles several months ago, and he said it's how they used to set-up the '97s, but if it was a DHP, I shouldn't have been able to modify it.

I think once he has a custom tune for his set-up things will get better. For instance, his IAT table pulls 3 degrees of timing from the main table at normal operating temps, like I said...it's a strange tune on that PCM.

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Poor syP, it seems to me it has to be the PCM, and a custom tune will do wonders for that car. With a 3.4, cam, headers, etc he couldnt really run away from me although I was running a 3.3 w/ 100 octane

 

[Kyle]

how much timing is on the car?

 

[imported_Ron Vogel]

I didn't bother looking at it after I saw the IAT table. I went and imported my tweaked table that allows 17 at WOT. I add extra at the IAT for myself, but with his set-up I doubt going over 19 would be a good idea w/o alky or an IC.

 

[syP]

crap,.... ron.. were we supposed to get together last night.... or TONIGHT??? now that i re-read the pm, im kinda confused.... damn i planned for tonight tooo.... sooo sorry if that was the problem.. can we reschedule for sometime this week... grr.. im sorry

ryan