3800 I'm torn between two V8's, help me.

[NetChemica]

2000 Camaro Z28:
"Patriotic red" a.k.a. burgundy
79k miles @ $9.5k
5.7L (LS1)
automatic
oil leak from main journals
2 month or 2k mile power train waranty
dealer is about 20 minutes away
tan leather seats
slotted and drilled brake rotors, K&N filter, strut bar
1 owner, who took care of the car (engine bay is flawless, so is the engine)

1999 Mustang GT:
Yellow
45k miles @ $9.6k (my tranny broke in my bimmer right after they said they would give $1k for it, so it would have ended up at $8.6k )
4.6L (mustang V8, SOHC)
5speed manual transmission
clutch makes a strange hiss
various waranty options I can purchase
dealer is just over an hour away
grey cloth seats
bone stock
2 owners

Both are clean on the outside, RWD, have a nice exhaust note, CD players, Traction control, power everything, remote entry.

My 18 year old bimmer took a dump today, the tranny is completely shot.. I think it could be the output shaft, but I'm not sure. It falls out of gear while driving and when it does that, the lever is hit in the tranny pretty violently until I stop. If I hold it in gear with my hand, it goes fine, but I doubt it would last the rest of the week.

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[GTPPWR]

camaro, and I buy the BMW

 

[NetChemica]

I forgot to mention, the Mustang dealership said they would fix any problems the car had before i bought it.

 

[PaceCarDriva500]

Originally posted by NetChemica@Mar 2 2005, 10:16 PM
2000 Camaro Z28:
"Patriotic red" a.k.a. burgundy
79k miles @ $9.5k
5.7L (LS1)
automatic
oil leak from main journals
2 month or 2k mile power train waranty
dealer is about 20 minutes away
tan leather seats
slotted and drilled brake rotors, K&N filter, strut bar
1 owner, who took care of the car (engine bay is flawless, so is the engine)

1999 Mustang GT:
Yellow
45k miles @ $9.6k (my tranny broke in my bimmer right after they said they would give $1k for it, so it would have ended up at $8.6k  )
4.6L (mustang V8, SOHC)
5speed manual transmission
clutch makes a strange hiss
various waranty options I can purchase
dealer is just over an hour away
grey cloth seats
bone stock
2 owners

Both are clean on the outside, RWD, have a nice exhaust note, CD players, Traction control, power everything, remote entry.

My 18 year old bimmer took a dump today, the tranny is completely shot.. I think it could be the output shaft, but I'm not sure.  It falls out of gear while driving and when it does that, the lever is hit in the tranny pretty violently until I stop.  If I hold it in gear with my hand, it goes fine, but I doubt it would last the rest of the week.

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how about you just buy a grand prix and stop with the ford crap right now..... haha..... you could get a good GTP with low miles for that price around here if you looked hard enough.... the problem with both of the cars that you listed is that you know they were both ran into the ground and owned by some kids...... so those are both bad bad choices in my book and will spell nothing but trouble down the line....

 

[GTPPWR]

camaro, single owner++++, Ls1++++, tuneability+++++, oil leak, can be fixed.

go with the LS1

 

[Glasuan]

I would say LS1 as well, with the new STS turbo for it. You can have it running 11's in no time.

 

[fastcash]

drive them both. if you like the feel for actually driving, the shifting, the clutch, the seats, then buy the ford. if you like doing shit while you drive, or d&d then get the camaro (automatic)

oh yeah, look at the years and the miles. obvioulsy the people who owned the camaro drove it hard and long: not even 5 years 96k, and the mustang, one yr older, way less miles.

 

[fastcash]

most of these people here are gm biased so, take that into configuration.


me, i like downshifting, powershifting, and overhead cam action, so i, again, would go Ford

 

[Mike K]

As a Ford fan I say go with the LS1. There is a lot more potential there. The older modular motors are turd with a capital 9.

 

[NetChemica]

Originally posted by PaceCarDriva500@Mar 2 2005, 10:52 PM
how about you just buy a grand prix and stop with the ford crap right now..... haha..... you could get a good GTP with low miles for that price around here if you looked hard enough.... the problem with both of the cars that you listed is that you know they were both ran into the ground and owned by some kids...... so those are both bad bad choices in my book and will spell nothing but trouble down the line....

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I want something that's RWD with huge aftermarket support. I realize the potential of the 3800, but for some reason I still prefer to have a V8. The Camaro hasn't been run into the ground though, all the records are available and has been really nicely maintained. I've also taken it to a good mechanic who believes that domestics break with any hint of mileage (his garage specializes in Ferrari's, Porsche's, BMW's, and Mercedes'), and even he said that the Camaro is in near-new shape. I tell ya, it's quite a site to see whenever I walk into that garage. Anyway, the Mustang is in good condition too, and anything that might break on the car is just another excuse for me to put in an aftermarket sibling.

 

[NetChemica]

Originally posted by fastcash420@Mar 2 2005, 11:00 PM
most of these people here are gm biased so, take that into configuration.


me, i like downshifting, powershifting, and overhead cam action, so i, again, would go Ford

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The manual transmission is a big plus in my book, but I live in a pretty small town, so the traffic is all stop and go, which gets quite annoying.

 

[itlnrob]

no comparison..............

ls1 destroys the 4.6 motor stock vs stock.

 

[jk99gtp]

Or just buy my '95 Lingenfelter Z28...

2,000 miles on the motor and 46,000 miles on the body!

Asking 13,000$

Edit: Typo :lolsign:

 

[syP]

civic.. duhh

I have been with NetChemica throughout this whole process... we are torn to decide which fits him best.

I dont even know what to tell him.

 

[The Broken Regal]

cause its your money, just looking out for your best interest i would go with the stang, seeing as the dealer can fix the problems and lower miles, plus warranty options

 

[SaturdaysGS]

If im reading this right then if you got the 2 month 2k mile powertrain warranty for the Z28 wouldnt they then have to fix the main journal oil leak if you took it in?

 

[LPSPEED2]

i would possibly even explore other options as well, like TA or even other mustangs or camaros. Not to dog on you, but those arent that great of a deal anyways, maybe you should look a bit more, just my $.02

 

[syP]

ahaha LEO.. you do not know how long we have been looking... how many cars we have test drove... how many dealerships and private homes that we have visited ALL OVER illinois.

 

[LPSPEED2]

and thats the best you have come up with???
You either have some more serious searching to do or if these cars are that great compared to the rest, then just take whatever you look best in!!!

 

[horist]

guess it depends on what you want... a slower car to start that costs more to make fast (99 GT) or a fast car outta the box that there's a HUGE aftermarket for and easy to make fast (LS1)

However, I wouldn't buy a car if it had a known issue (oil leak from main journals) , and 79k is kinda high mileage, depending on how it was driven that 4L60E may be in need of a rebuild soon

I would definetly say go w/aLS1 ... it's simply a better engine than the mustang (even the dohc cobras aren't that impressive compared to the LS1) ... now if it was between an 03 cobra and an LS1 car... as much as I love the LS1 i'd have to say go w/the cobra

Shop around more... there are lots of nice LS1 powered F-Bodies out there... 99-00 had a different cam, LS1 intake and some other things... 01-02 had the LS6 Intake Manifold and the truck cam, but the engines are identical as far as aftermarket, I would stay away from 98 if you plan onmodding it as they are the odd man out for LS1 powered F-Bodies

 

[xttc2000]

the mustang will be a dog, and very expensive to make quick. and even then it still wont be fast. but its much much much more reliable.

 

[imported_Diavolo]

Ls1 because you don't want to lose to Ryan now do you?

 

[itlnrob]

As much of a fan of ls1's that i am...............



I would love to have an 03/04 Cobra too!

 

[syP]

this is a GT guys... not a cobra.

and Mike, either way he will beat me..

This kid has more money than any other 19 year old i know..

besides Bumpin

 

[Fish]

Mustangs are like tampons.......

you know the rest.