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Old 01-22-2005, 09:17 PM   #1
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You guys seem pretty knowledgable and was hoping you could help me out I saw this and have been tempted to get it. 2000 GTP w/ 38K mi. their asking $10,900 it states it GM certified. Any help would be appreciated.
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not a bad asking price really, what options does it have?
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not a bad asking price really, what options does it have?
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Price $10,990

Mileage 38384

Exterior Color Maroon

Body Style Coupe

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Engine 6 Cylinder Gasoline

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Drive Type 2 wheel drive - front

VIN 1G2WR1210YF217766


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not a bad asking price really, what options does it have?
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Price $10,990

Mileage 38384

Exterior Color Maroon

Body Style Coupe

Doors Two Door

Engine 6 Cylinder Gasoline

Transmission 4 Speed Automatic with Electronic Overdrive

Fuel Type Gasoline

Drive Type 2 wheel drive - front

VIN 1G2WR1210YF217766


Leather Steering Wheel Automatic Climate Control Air Conditioning Tilt Steering Wheel Tinted Glass Trip Computer Steering Wheel Radio Controls Tachometer Cruise Control Center Console Lighted Entry System Overhead Console Power Door Locks Pow Rear Spoiler
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hmm sounds ok, do u know if it has a HUD?

also i'm curious to what a power rear spoiler is
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you might find this interesting....


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This coupe has had 2 owners and was owned in Michigan and Illinois. It was originally registered as a lease vehicle. The leasing company actually owned this vehicle and collected payments from the individual leasing it until the vehicle was sold or the lease expired.
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Number of Owners 2 Estimated Owner(s)
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DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 9 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED
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Year/Make/Model: 2000 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GTP

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 3.8L V6 MFI OHV SPRCH
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: UNITED STATES
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Running Lights, Dual front air bags/active (manual) belts

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer


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Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
Junk Title Flood Damage Title
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Reading reported on 11/24/2003: 28,439 miles
Inconsistent reading on 11/24/2003: 25,043 miles
Reading reported on 04/27/2004: 32,000 miles




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1st owner 02/15/2000 Michigan
2nd owner 11/24/2003 Illinois

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This 2000 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GTP (1G2WR1210YF217766) was checked for 8 types of registrations.

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Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
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Estimated start date of warranty: 02/15/2000
Last reading reported on 04/27/2004: True mileage unknown Recalculate with current mileage
Today's Date: January 22, 2005

Type of Coverage: Original Warranty: Estimated Remaining Coverage:
Basic 36 months or 36,000 miles Coverage expired
Drivetrain 36 months or 36,000 miles Coverage expired
Emissions 24 months or 24,000 miles Coverage expired
Corrosion 72 months or 100,000 miles 13 months
Transferable Transferable at not cost. Same
Roadside Assistance 36 months or 36,000 miles Coverage expired
Safety Belt & Inflatable Restraint No data reported to CARFAX
Specific Components 96 months or 80,000 miles 37 months
Notes: Manufacturer covers emissions components under basic warranty. Emissions coverage may vary by state. Refer to owners manual for specific details. Transferable: not cost, unlimited owners covered. Alignment and wheel balancing are considered maintenance after 7,500 miles. Basic warranty includes surface corrosion, batteries, adjustments, alternate transportation, roadside assistance, and tires.




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CARFAX searched more than 3 billion records from over 5,300 sources and found 9 record(s) for this 2000 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GTP (1G2WR1210YF217766).

Date:
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02/15/2000 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Rapids, MI
Registered as
lease vehicle


02/15/2000 318 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Rapids, MI
Title #263L0460759
Title or registration issued
First owner reported
Registered as lease vehicle


06/10/2003 24,537 Dealer Inventory
Roselle, IL
Vehicle offered for sale


06/16/2003 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


07/25/2003 Dealer Inventory
Illinois
Vehicle sold


11/24/2003 28,439 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


11/24/2003 25,043 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Hanover Park, IL
Title #T3328627651
Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
INCONSISTENT ODOMETER READING

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04/27/2004 32,000 Illinois
Inspection Station
Schaumburg, IL
Passed emissions inspection


01/04/2005 Dealer Inventory
Roselle, IL
Vehicle offered for sale

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When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles as proof of ownership.

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When someone leases a car from a dealer, the dealer actually sells the vehicle to a leasing company. The leasing company then collects payments for the vehicle from the new owner for 24, 36, 48 or more months. A leasing company can be an independent car dealer or a car manufacturer.

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Old 01-22-2005, 11:13 PM   #6
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Damn Burt, could you just posted the link? :P
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I would sell that hunk of a Mustang and buy it!

If you get that, you, Robert and I should meet for a little local mod and beer day.
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Damn Burt, could you just posted the link?* :P
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LOL ... everytime i post links they do not work . h34r:
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Originally posted by Kyle+Jan 22 2005, 11:17 PM-->
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not a bad asking price really, what options does it have?
[snapback]68550[/snapback]

Price $10,990

Mileage 38384

Exterior Color Maroon

Body Style Coupe

Doors Two Door

Engine 6 Cylinder Gasoline

Transmission 4 Speed Automatic with Electronic Overdrive

Fuel Type Gasoline

Drive Type 2 wheel drive - front

VIN 1G2WR1210YF217766


Leather Steering Wheel Automatic Climate Control Air Conditioning Tilt Steering Wheel Tinted Glass Trip Computer Steering Wheel Radio Controls Tachometer Cruise Control Center Console Lighted Entry System Overhead Console Power Door Locks Pow Rear Spoiler
[snapback]68552[/snapback]

hmm sounds ok, do u know if it has a HUD?

also i'm curious to what a power rear spoiler is
[snapback]68553[/snapback]
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HUD is probably the best option a car can have!! haha I'm kiddin' but I love it!
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Thanks alot Burt.
Autoguy what are you doing here??
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Thanks alot Burt.
Autoguy what are you doing here??
[snapback]68579[/snapback]

no problem ... did you make note that this car was used for leasing ?
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I don't see anything wrong with leased vehicles, rentals are a different story. Most people that lease take care of the car because they know they have to turn in back in in good shape.
Now a rental.......great time to drop out that neutral drop..........
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Quote:
Originally posted by JennY+Jan 23 2005, 11:53 AM-->
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Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 10:53 PM
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not a bad asking price really, what options does it have?
[snapback]68550[/snapback]

Price $10,990

Mileage 38384

Exterior Color Maroon

Body Style Coupe

Doors Two Door

Engine 6 Cylinder Gasoline

Transmission 4 Speed Automatic with Electronic Overdrive

Fuel Type Gasoline

Drive Type 2 wheel drive - front

VIN 1G2WR1210YF217766


Leather Steering Wheel Automatic Climate Control Air Conditioning Tilt Steering Wheel Tinted Glass Trip Computer Steering Wheel Radio Controls Tachometer Cruise Control Center Console Lighted Entry System Overhead Console Power Door Locks Pow Rear Spoiler
[snapback]68552[/snapback]



hmm sounds ok, do u know if it has a HUD?

also i'm curious to what a power rear spoiler is
[snapback]68553[/snapback]

HUD is probably the best option a car can have!! haha I'm kiddin' but I love it!
[snapback]68577[/snapback]
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I LOVE having my hud, I'm so spoiled now, I always find myself trying to get at the right angle to see it in other cars (which obviously dont have it) its rediculous. :lol:
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Thanks alot Burt.
Autoguy what are you doing here??
[snapback]68579[/snapback]
I'm the token Buick guy. :blink:
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Thanks alot Burt.
Autoguy what are you doing here??
[snapback]68579[/snapback]
I'm the token Buick guy. :blink:
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hows that for a sn?
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Now I'm dissappointed, I drove by the lot today to check it out. It looked great sunroof,leather, HUD and milage on odometer was 38384. The paint looked great for being dirty from the snow. Upon closer inspection the car had some pretty serious scratches on the hood,top,and trunk like someone had placed
boxes on there and dragged them across the car. That was a total heart break .
I really thought this was the one. I guess that saying is true "If it sounds to good to be true it usually is"
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Paint isnt a big deal. We have a member that will go over the car and make it alot better. GTP Kid 2004 is his name. Look him up.

Hell of a price. I wouldnt let scratches scare me away for that kind of price.
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not so fast ....

MAYBE ... if the scratches arent too bad they could possibly be buffed out . there are members here that may be able to help you there . I dont remember who does the work but someone will chime in .

it could quite possibly be a great bargaining (sp) tool as well...
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Paint isnt a big deal. We have a member that will go over the car and make it alot better. GTP Kid 2004 is his name. Look him up.

Hell of a price. I wouldnt let scratches scare me away for that kind of price.
[snapback]68606[/snapback]
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Hehe, thats cool. We are in agreement though. I wouldnt write the car off when the difference really isnt worth it. Another place would probably ask 12K for that car. Save the money and do a nice job for the paint. You will still come out ahead.
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Hell, I have all of the stuff to buff plus a heated garage to do it in. I work for lunch...I already have beer.
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You guys seem pretty knowledgable and was hoping you could help me out I saw this and have been tempted to get it. 2000 GTP w/ 38K mi. their asking $10,900 it states it GM certified. Any help would be appreciated.
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hey, uwishu1, don't you own a gt mustang? because i raced one with those plates.
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You guys seem pretty knowledgable and was hoping you could help me out I saw this and have been tempted to get it. 2000 GTP w/ 38K mi. their asking $10,900 it states it GM certified. Any help would be appreciated.
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hey, uwishu1, don't you own a gt mustang? because i raced one with those plates.
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YES, I do where and when did we race?? What color is your GTP??

Back on topic Sorry :unsure:
The scratches are not like swirl marks, they are pretty deep I don't think a buffing will get them out. Repaint for sure not the whole car just the sections I mentioned
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maybe u could work out a deal with them to take care of that, it seems like it would be hard to sell a car with deep scratches like that.
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Thanks everyone for ALL your help.
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