3800 CUBS WIN

alexgtp

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What a crappy series for the SOX. Luckily the twins also lost one game over the weekend So as of today we are only 1/2 game out of first.

WTF is up with OZzie's decision to walk a batter to load up the bases!!
DAMn rain on sat screwed everything.

Well this just verified my thoughts that OUR PITCHING BULLPEN BLOWS!!
TRADE MAGS AND GET SOME GOOD BULLPEN PITCHERS!!
 

burtgtp1973

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Originally posted by alexgtp@Jul 6 2004, 01:59 PM
Better pitching staff YES..
Better manager NO
Better Hitters: NO
Better fans: HELL NOOOO!!
you dont really believe that do you ?

Better hitters... ill give you that.

Better Mgr. ... Never .

Bettter Fans...Wrigley is having a record year for attendance this year , i do not think its because they are coming to see the players that have been on the DL .
 

Rocky

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Originally posted by burtgtp1973+Jul 6 2004, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (burtgtp1973 @ Jul 6 2004, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-alexgtp@Jul 6 2004, 01:59 PM
Better pitching staff YES..
Better manager NO
Better Hitters: NO
Better fans: HELL NOOOO!!
you dont really believe that do you ?

Better hitters... ill give you that.

Better Mgr. ... Never .

Bettter Fans...Wrigley is having a record year for attendance this year , i do not think its because they are coming to see the players that have been on the DL . [/b][/quote]
Just because you sell out almost every game doesnt mean you have better fans. By better fans we mean fans that actually know the game. The Cubs sell out not because of the team but because of the atmosphere that Wrigley provides. Many people just go to get wasted and to see Sosa strike out 3 times then hit one out when it doesnt count. Thats it.

Your manager cant win the big game when it counts. He doesnt know how to manage his pitchers, which was seen last year in the playoffs, and why your biggest pitchers went on the DL.

Ozzie, well see by the end of the year how good he does. So far he has done a great job and you cant deny that.
 

gtphale

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you sox fans really need to lay off of Cub fans not knowing the game. We travel all around to watch our club. Yesterday there was over 20k in Miller Park. You Sox fans just have to realize that your fan base sucks. They are afraid to visit the park and still upset over the strike.

Go Cubs 4 out of 6 vs the Sux
 

Rocky

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Originally posted by gtphale@Jul 6 2004, 04:17 PM
you sox fans really need to lay off of Cub fans not knowing the game. We travel all around to watch our club. Yesterday there was over 20k in Miller Park. You Sox fans just have to realize that your fan base sucks. They are afraid to visit the park and still upset over the strike.

Go Cubs 4 out of 6 vs the Sux
Its the truth!

Ask a random Cub fan who was the third baseman before Aramis. And who was the manager before Dusty. And Im willing to bet they dont know.

Why? Because being a Cub fan is whats in, its the cool thing. You go to be seen on your phone and to get drunk. PERIOD.

Yeah you guys took the series, first time since 1998. The Sox yet are still in better shape in the standings, thats what matters.

And I dont want to hear that its because we are in a weak division. If the Flubs were so good then they wouldnt be 4 games down. PERIOD.
 

gtphale

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Rocky stop being a hater. Cubs 5th best record in baseball Sux 12th best. Cubs better record then Sox 2 out of 3 seasons. Cub fans know the game. I'm sure that if I was togo to the Cell I would find plenty of fans there that are doing nothing but getting drunk and picking fights. Cause that is what they do. There is a reason why it is called the Cell.
 

burtgtp1973

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Originally posted by gtphale@Jul 6 2004, 06:39 PM
. There is a reason why it is called the Cell.
LMAO ....


why do you suppose their are more Cub fans across the USA ? there are ALOT of Cub fans that have never even been to Wrigley. the Cubs have had more overall success over the years ... when i first got into baseball i was a Sox fan . Fisk , Kittle , Luzinski . ... but i was only 5 what did i know. it just seems there have been bigger names coming from the Cubs organization over the years. i guess you could say fan favorites .

rattle off the big name Sox players over the years that have actually put up some good #'s . refresh my memory please .
 

burtgtp1973

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just a little Cub history , all you ever wanted to know and some you didnt ! ... :cheers:


***** Chicago Cubs *****

Team Founded: 1876
Team History:
1876-1893 - Chicago White Stockings
1894-1897 - Chicago Colts
1898-1902 - Chicago Orphans
1903-Present - Chicago Cubs

Team Colors: Royal Blue, Red, White & Gray
Derivative: A newspaper contest tabbed the name CUBS.

Mailing & Stadium Address:
Chicago National League Ball Club, Inc.
Wrigley Field
1060 West Addison Street
Chicago, IL. 60613-4397
(773) - 404-2827
Opened: 1914
First Official Game: April 20, 1916, 7-6 win over Cincinnati Reds in 11
innings.
Stadium Capacity: 38,902
Surface: Natural Grass

Dimensions:
* Home to Left Field - 355 Feet
* Home to Left-Center Field - 368 Feet
* Home to Center Field - 400 Feet
* Home to Right-Center Field - 368 Feet
* Home to Right Field - 353 Feet
* Height of Outside Walls - 11 1/2 Feet

Ground Rules:
- If the ball hits the railing or screen above the bleacher wall and
bounces back onto the playing field, it is in play.
- If the ball hits the top of the screen and drops between the screen
and drops between the screen and wall, or hits the screen and bounces
into the bleachers, it's a home run.
- If the ball sticks in the screen or in the vines, it's a double.
- If the ball hits foul markers above the painted mark, it's a home
run.
- If the ball goes under the grates in left field or right field and
remains there, it's a double.
- If the ball hits the foul markers below the painted mark and
bounces back on playing field, it is in play.
- If the ball goes in or under the grates on either side of home plate
and remains there, it's one base on a pitched ball and two bases on a
over thrown ball.

Owner - Chicago Tribune
Board of Directors: Jim Dowdle, Andrew B. MacPhail, Andrew J. McKenna
Executive Vice President of Business Operations: Marc Mcguire
CEO & General Manager: Andrew MacPhail
Manager: Dusty Baker

Coaching History:
Term Coach Reg.Season Playoffs
1876-77 Albert Spalding 126- 78
1878 Bob Ferguson 30- 30
1879-97 Cap Anson 1283-932
1898-99 Tommy Burns 160-138
1900-01 Tom Loftus 118-161
1902-05 Frank Selee 280-213
(Replaced after 65 games of 1905 Season)
Frank Chance 55- 33
1906-12 Frank Chance 713-356 11- 9-1
1913 Johnny Evers 88- 65
1914 Hank O'Day 78- 76
1915 Roger Bresnahan 73- 80
1916 Joe Tinker 67- 86
1917-20 Fred Mitchell 308-269 2- 4
1921-25 Bill Killefer 300-293
(Replaced after 75 games of 1925 Season)
Rabbit Maranville 23- 30
(Interim manager for 53 games of 1925 Season)
George Gibson 12- 14
(Interim manager for 26 games of 1925 Season)
1926-30 Joe McCarthy 442-321 1- 4
(Replaced after 152 games of 1930 Season)
Rogers Hornsby 4- 0
1931-32 Rogers Hornsby 137-116
(Replaced after 99 games of 1932 Season)
Charlie Grimm 37- 18 0- 4
1933-38 Charlie Grimm 497-351 2- 4
(Replaced after 81 games of 1938 Season)
Gabby Harnett 44- 27
1939-40 Gabby Harnett 159-149
1941-44 Jimmy Wilson 213-258
(Replaced after 10 games of 1944 Season)
Roy Johnson 0- 1
(Interim manager for 1 game of 1944 Season)
Charlie Grimm 74- 69
1945-49 Charlie Grimm 332-333 3- 4
(Replaced after 50 games of 1949 Season)
Frankie Frish 42- 62
1950-51 Frankie Frish 99-134
(Replaced after 81 games of 1951 Season)
Phil Cavaretta 27- 47
1952-53 Phil Cavaretta 142-166
1954-56 Stan Hack 196-265
1957-59 Bob Scheffing 208-254
1960 Lou Boudreau 54- 83
1961 Vedie Himsl 10- 21
(Replaced after 31 games of 1961 Season)
Harry Craft 7- 9
(Replaced after 16 games of 1961 Season)
Elvin Tappe 42- 53
1962 Elvin Tappe 4- 16
(Replaced after 20 games in 1962 Season)
Lou Klein 12- 18
(Interim manager for 30 games in 1962 Season)
Charlie Metro 43- 69
1963-65 Bob Kennedy 182-198
1966-72 Leo Durocher 535-526
(Replaced after 91 games of 1972 Season)
Whitey Lockman 39- 26
1973-74 Whitey Lockman 118-136
(Replaced after 93 games of 1974 Season)
Jim Marshall 25- 44
1975-76 Jim Marshall 150-174
1977-79 Herman Franks 238-241
(Replaced after 155 games of 1979 Season)
Joe Amalfitano 2- 5
(Interim manager for 7 games of 1979 Season)
1980 Preston Gomez 38- 52
(Replaced after 90 games of 1980 Season)
Joe Amalfitano 26- 46
1981 Joe Amalfitano 38- 65
(Replaced after 52 games of 1981 Season)
1982-83 Lee Elia 127-158
(Replaced after 123 games of 1983 Season)
Charlie Fox 17- 22
1984-86 Jim Frey 196-182 2- 3
(Replaced after 56 games of 1986 Season)
John Vukovich 1- 1
(Interim manager for 1 game of 1986 Season)
Gene Michael 46- 56
1987 Gene Michael 68- 68
(Replaced after 136 games of 1987 Season)
Frank Lucchesi 8- 17
(Interim manager for 25 games of 1987 Season)
1988-91 Don Zimmer 265-258 1- 4
(Replaced after 1 game of 1991 Season)
Joe Altobelli 0- 1
(Interim manager for 1 game of 1991 Season)
Jim Essian 59- 63
(Interim manager for 122 games of 1991 Season)
1992-93 Jim Lefevre 162-162
1994-1995 Tom Trebelhorn 122-135
1996-1999 Jim Riggleman 301-348 0- 3
2000-2002 Don Baylor 187-220
(Replaced after 83 games in 2002 season)
2002-2002 Bruce Kimm 33-46
2002-present Dusty Baker 88- 74 6- 6

Retired Numbers: (2)
14 - Ernie Banks
26 - Billy Williams

Cubs in the Hall of Fame: (41)

1938 - Grover Cleveland Alexander
1939 - Cap Anson, A.G. Spalding
1942 - Rogers Hornsby
1945 - Roger Bresnahan, Hugh Duffy, King Kelly
1946 - Frank Chance, Johnny Evers, Clark C. Griffith, Joe Tinker,
Rube Waddell
1947 - Frankie Frisch
1949 - Mordecai Brown
1951 - Jimmie Fox
1953 - Dizzy Dean
1954 - Rabbit Maranville
1955 - Gabby Hartnett
1957 - Joe McCarthy
1963 - John Clarkson
1964 - Burleigh Grimes
1968 - Kiki Cuyler
1970 - Lou Boudreau
1973 - George Kelly, Monte Irvin
1975 - Billy Herman, Ralph Kiner
1976 - Fred Lindstrom, Robin Roberts
1977 - Ernie Banks
1979 - Hack Wilson
1980 - Chuck Klein
1985 - Lou Brock, Hoyt Wilhelm
1987 - Billy Williams
1991 - Ferguson Jenkins, Tony Lazzeri
1994 - Leo Durocher
1995 - Richie Ashburn
1999 - Frank Selee
2004 - Dennis Eckersley

World Series Titles: (2) 1907, '08
National League Pennants: (17) 1876, '80, '81, 82, '85, '86
1906, '07, '08, '10, '18, '29, '32, '35, '38,
1945
Division Titles: (3) 1984, '89, 2003
Wild Card: (1) 1998

NL Most Valuable Player NL Cy Young Award
----------------------- -----------------
1911 - Frank Schulte 1971 - Ferguson Jenkins
1929 - Rogers Hornsby 1979 - Bruce Sutter
1935 - Gabby Harnett 1984 - Rick Sutcliffe
1945 - Phil Cavarretta 1992 - Greg Maddux
1952 - Hank Sauer
1958 - Ernie Banks1959 - Ernie Banks
1984 - Ryne Sandberg
1987 - Andre Dawson
1998 - Sammy Sosa

Rookie of the Year (BBWA) Manager of the Year
------------------------- -------------------
1961 - Billy Williams 1984 - Jim Frey
1962 - Ken Hubbs 1989 - Don Zimmer
1989 - Jerome Walton
1998 - Kerry Wood

Yearly Record:
Reg. Season Playoffs
Year Location W L Pct. GB Pos. Div. W L Pct.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
1901 Chicago 53 86 .381 37 (6)
1902 Chicago 68 69 .496 34 (5)
1903 Chicago 82 56 .594 8 (3)
1904 Chicago 93 60 .608 13 (2)
1905 Chicago 92 61 .601 13 (3)
1906 Chicago 116 36 .763 -- (1) 2 4 .333 NL Ch
1907 Chicago 107 45 .704 -- (1) 4-0-1 1.000 WS Ch
1908 Chicago 99 55 .643 -- (1) 4 1 .800 WS Ch
1909 Chicago 104 49 .680 6.5 (2)
1910 Chicago 110 50 .675 -- (1) 1 4 .200 NL Ch
1911 Chicago 92 62 .597 7.5 (2)
1912 Chicago 91 59 .607 11.5 (3)
1913 Chicago 88 65 .575 13.5 (3)
1914 Chicago 78 76 .506 16.5 (4)
1915 Chicago 73 80 .477 17.5 (4)
1916 Chicago 67 86 .438 26.5 (5)
1917 Chicago 74 80 .481 24 (5)
1918 Chicago 84 45 .611 -- (1) 2 4 .333 NL Ch
1919 Chicago 75 65 .536 21 (3)
1920 Chicago 75 79 .487 18 (5t)
1921 Chicago 64 89 .418 30 (7)
1922 Chicago 80 74 .519 13 (5)
1923 Chicago 83 71 .539 12.5 (4)
1924 Chicago 81 72 .529 12 (5)
1925 Chicago 68 86 .422 27.5 (8)
1926 Chicago 82 72 .532 7 (4)
1927 Chicago 85 68 .556 8.5 (4)
1928 Chicago 91 63 .591 4 (3)
1929 Chicago 98 54 .645 -- (1) 1 4 .200 NL Ch
1930 Chicago 90 64 .584 2 (2)
1931 Chicago 84 70 .545 17 (3)
1932 Chicago 90 64 .684 -- (1) 0 4 .000 NL Ch
1933 Chicago 86 68 .558 6 (3)
1934 Chicago 86 65 .570 8 (3)
1935 Chicago 100 54 .649 -- (1) 2 4 .333 NL Ch
1936 Chicago 87 67 .565 5 (2t)
1937 Chicago 93 61 .604 3 (2)
1938 Chicago 89 63 .586 -- (4)
1939 Chicago 84 70 .545 13 (4)
1940 Chicago 75 79 .487 25.5 (5)
1941 Chicago 70 84 .455 30 (6)
1942 Chicago 68 86 .442 38 (6)
1943 Chicago 74 79 .484 30.5 (5)
1944 Chicago 75 79 .487 30 (4)
1945 Chicago 98 56 .636 -- (1) 3 4 .429 NL Ch
1946 Chicago 82 71 .536 14.5 (3)
1947 Chicago 69 85 .448 25 (6)
1948 Chicago 64 90 .416 27.5 (8)
1949 Chicago 61 93 .396 36 (8)
1950 Chicago 64 89 .418 26.5 (7)
1951 Chicago 62 92 .403 34.5 (8)
1952 Chicago 77 77 .500 19.5 (5)
1953 Chicago 65 89 .422 40 (7)
1954 Chicago 64 90 .416 33 (7)
1955 Chicago 72 81 .471 26 (6)
1956 Chicago 60 94 .390 33 (8)
1957 Chicago 62 92 .403 33 (7t)
1958 Chicago 72 82 .468 20 (5t)
1959 Chicago 74 80 .481 13 (5t)
1960 Chicago 60 94 .390 35 (7)
1961 Chicago 64 90 .416 29 (7)
1962 Chicago 59 103 .364 42.5 (9)
1963 Chicago 82 80 .506 17 (7)
1964 Chicago 76 86 .469 17 (8)
1965 Chicago 72 90 .444 25 (8)
1966 Chicago 59 103 .364 36 (10)
1967 Chicago 87 74 .540 14 (3)
1968 Chicago 84 78 .519 13 (3)
1969 Chicago 92 70 .568 8 (2) East
1970 Chicago 84 78 .519 5 (2) East
1971 Chicago 83 79 .512 14 (3t) East
1972 Chicago 85 70 .548 11 (2) East
1973 Chicago 77 84 .478 5 (5) East
1974 Chicago 66 96 .407 22 (6) East
1975 Chicago 75 87 .463 17.5 (5t) East
1976 Chicago 75 87 .463 26 (4) East
1977 Chicago 81 81 .500 20 (4) East
1978 Chicago 79 83 .488 11 (3) East
1979 Chicago 80 82 .494 18 (5) East
1980 Chicago 64 98 .395 27 (6) East
1981 Chicago * 15 37 .288 17.5 (6) East
23 28 .451 6 (5) East
1982 Chicago 73 89 .451 19 (5) East
1983 Chicago 71 91 .438 19 (5) East
1984 Chicago 96 65 .596 -- (1) East 2 3 .400 Div Ch
1985 Chicago 77 84 .478 23.5 (4) East
1986 Chicago 70 90 .438 37 (5) East
1987 Chicago 76 85 .472 18.5 (6) East
1988 Chicago 77 85 .475 24 (4) East
1989 Chicago 93 69 .574 -- (1) East 1 4 .200 Div Ch
1990 Chicago 77 85 .475 18 (4t) East
1991 Chicago 77 83 .481 20 (4) East
1992 Chicago 78 84 .481 18 (4) East
1993 Chicago 84 78 .519 13 (4) East
1994 Chicago * 49 64 .434 16.5 (5) Cent
1995 Chicago * 73 71 .507 12 (3) Cent
1996 Chicago 76 86 .469 12 (4) Cent
1997 Chicago 68 94 .420 16 (5) Cent
1998 Chicago 90 73 .552 12.5 (2) Cent 0 3 .000 W-Card
1999 Chicago 67 95 .414 30 (6) Cent
2000 Chicago 65 97 .401 30 (6) Cent
2001 Chicago 88 74 .543 5 (3) Cent
2002 Chicago 67 95 .414 30 (5) Cent
2003 Chicago 88 74 .543 -- (1) Cent 6 6 .500 NLCS

* Strike Shortened Season

Overall Regular Season Record: 8052 - 8071 (.499)
Overall Regular Season Record Since 1900: 6453 - 6893 (.483)
Overall Post Season Record: 28- 45 (.383)
 
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