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Old 09-01-2016, 02:49 PM   #1
 
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My sisters 02 intrigue is throwing a secondary air injection system code, car has 200k on it, and don't really wanna dump any money into it. Just need to pass emissions, can the powrtuner flash this car? I would just be setting the code to no error reporting (whatever else needs to be done to keep the code from popping up)and that's it. Car passed all other tests fine.

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It's the 3.5 DOHC short star
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are them as much of a pain in the ass to work on as the 3.4 dohc engines in the pregen gtps?
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are them as much of a pain in the ass to work on as the 3.4 dohc engines in the pregen gtps?


It doesn't seem too bad, and no timing belt thankfully!
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There's some good info here. https://www.obd-codes.com/p0410

Looks like it may be a check valve and/or the air pump.
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I'm 90% sure the powrtuner can't tune that motor.
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Yeah I don't think the power tuner will do that engine
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Good news is that I think only the California cars had the air injection system so you might be able to change the PCM 2A 49 State unit
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Yeah I thought the Power Tuner was wide open for 3800's
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are them as much of a pain in the ass to work on as the 3.4 dohc engines in the pregen gtps?
Don't call them "pregens"
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is bastard child better?

always been pregen same with the 95 regen wheels
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i bet HP tuners can tune it. buying a license to tune it will be cheaper than fixing the air injection system.
diverter valves fail and allow water into the pump on these, causing the pump itself to fail. it's an expensive useless system to fix, that's for sure.
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i bet HP tuners can tune it. buying a license to tune it will be cheaper than fixing the air injection system.
diverter valves fail and allow water into the pump on these, causing the pump itself to fail. it's an expensive useless system to fix, that's for sure.


I just need HPTuners...
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Good news is that I think only the California cars had the air injection system so you might be able to change the PCM 2A 49 State unit


So Youre thinking I would just need a PCM for same year make model sans California emissions and do a security relearn?
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Powrtuner should be able to tune it and it should already be unlocked thanks to their willingness to put themselves out of business just to spite everyone else.

Set it to no report. Make sure you check readiness before going back in. I believe they'll allow you one not ready code.
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Powrtuner should be able to tune it and it should already be unlocked thanks to their willingness to put themselves out of business just to spite everyone else.

Set it to no report. Make sure you check readiness before going back in. I believe they'll allow you one not ready code.


Even though it's a 3.5? I don't wanna brick it lol..

I see in this doc

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It supports 2001 3.5, but it's only certain osid's? Which confuses me.
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So I received a .bin with a osid from a 2001 intrigue with the 3.5, but wanna play it safe so I think I'm gonna get a PCM for a 2001-2002 intrigue and flash it, just INCASE it doesn't work.

Full write? Partial? 2001 or 2002 PCM?

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You should be able to read your file without bricking it. The write is the dangerous part. I would go read it and then see what happens. If the osid isn't there, you'll have to use a different file.
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You should be able to read your file without bricking it. The write is the dangerous part. I would go read it and then see what happens. If the osid isn't there, you'll have to use a different file.


Read it no problem, but can't open it. Is the powrtuner able to flash a file it can't open? Someone on facespace group said that was an option if I flashed the 2001 bin on the PCM and it didn't work that I should be able to flash the 2002. As long as it wasn't bricked.

Thinking the safe bet would be to get a 2001/2 PCM and flash that and keep the stock one. Which would be better to use to flash or would it not matter? And would I do a partial or full? Obviously id need to change the vin.
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If you can't open the file, the osid isn't available. Usually. You can write a different file though. The pcm might like it, or it might not.
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