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Old 10-23-2015, 08:53 AM   #1
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15757 - Upcoming Safety Recall - Under Hood Fire Updated Date: Oct 21, 2015 19:50 ET



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Date: October 21, 2015

Subject: Upcoming Safety Recall 15757
Under Hood Fire

Models: 1997-2004 Buick Regal
2000-2004 Chevrolet Impala
1998-1999 Chevrolet Lumina
1998-2004 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1998-1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue
1997-2004 Pontiac Grand Prix
Equipped with 3.8L V6 engine (RPO L26, L32, L36 or L67)

To: All General Motors Dealers

Attention: General Manager, Service Advisor, Service Manager, Parts and
Service Director, Parts Manager, New or Used Vehicle Sales Manager

General Motors has notified the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) about an upcoming safety recall that involves certain 1997-2004 model year (MY) Buick Regal, 2000-2004 MY Chevrolet Impala, 1998-1999 MY Chevrolet Lumina, 1998-2004 MY Chevrolet Monte Carlo, 1998-1999 MY Oldsmobile Intrigue, and 1997-2004 MY Pontiac Grand Prix vehicles equipped with a 3.8L V6 engine (RPO L26, L32, L36 or L67). The GM recall number is 15757.

General Motors has decided that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in certain of the following vehicles equipped with a 3.8L V6 engine (RPO L26, L32, L36 or L67): 1997-2004 model year (MY) Buick Regal, 2000-2004 MY Chevrolet Impala, 1998-1999 MY Chevrolet Lumina, 1998-2004 MY Chevrolet Monte Carlo, 1998-1999 MY Oldsmobile Intrigue, and 1997-2004 MY Pontiac Grand Prix. Certain of these vehicles have a condition in which drops of engine oil may be deposited on the exhaust manifold through hard braking. This condition could cause an engine compartment fire.

Certain of these vehicles produced before June 26, 2003 were subject to General Motors' prior safety recalls 07035, 09047 and 14574. In some cases, the repair procedure performed on these vehicles pursuant to the prior recalls may not be sufficient to prevent subsequent engine compartment fires relating to this condition in the affected vehicles. Vehicles previously repaired under the referenced recalls will receive further repairs as part of this recall.

The repair procedure for this recall is currently being validated. GM will provide this information as soon as it is available.

This is a courtesy notification to dealers. Dealers will be advised when the recall bulletin is scheduled for release.
The Investigate Vehicle History screen in the Global Warranty Management system will be updated in the near future for this upcoming safety recall. This action is being taken to assist dealers with determining which vehicles are involved so they can properly respond to customer inquiries. Please note the "N/A" under Release Date and the "Incomplete – Remedy Not Yet Available" message under Status. This means release of the recall bulletin is still pending and dealers should not attempt to perform any repairs at this time.
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So another round of valve cover gaskets?
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I wonder why they inclueded 04 grand prix's, but not 05+
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Wow, I thought New GM wasn't responsible for Old GM..?
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I don't think they're getting away with it
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I wonder why the h-bodies aren't included in this? It has the same valve covers, etc.
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Because they're all in the scrap yards
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the old farts that drive the G&H bodies don't tend to slam on their brakes as hard as those young pricks
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I slam the shit out of the brakes on my Bonerville all the time. I should get free valve cover gaskets, WTF. Racist pricks.
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I wonder if it's finally for the fuel line orings
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Cant wait for all the dealers to put these on the lift and punch through all the rotten rockers......

Mother fuckers recall that Id love to watch every wbody on the planet still driveable line up in front of the body shop.
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Certain of these vehicles produced before June 26, 2003 were subject to General Motors' prior safety recalls 07035, 09047 and 14574. In some cases, the repair procedure performed on these vehicles pursuant to the prior recalls may not be sufficient to prevent subsequent engine compartment fires relating to this condition in the affected vehicles.
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Out of curiosity, what happens if my old burnt GTP shows up on the list? Nothing right?
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I wonder if it's finally for the fuel line orings
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DETROIT — For the third time in seven years, General Motors is recalling cars that can leak oil and catch fire, in some instances damaging garages and homes.

The recall, which covers 1.4 million vehicles dating to the 1997 model year, is needed because repairs from the first two recalls didn't work. More than 1,300 cars caught fire after they were fixed by dealers, the company said.

In the previous recalls, in 2008 and 2009, GM told owners to park the cars outside until repairs can be made since most of the fires happened shortly after drivers turned off the engines. A spokesman was checking to see if the same recommendation applies this time.

U.S. safety regulators became aware of the fires in early 2007 and GM has since reported 19 minor related injuries. In 2008, a GM spokeswoman said the cars were responsible for 267 fires, including at least 17 that burned structures.

The latest recall, mainly in North America, includes: the 1997-2004 Pontiac Grand Prix and Buick Regal; the 2000-2004 Chevrolet Impala; the 1998 and 1999 Chevrolet Lumina and Oldsmobile Intrigue; and the 1998-2004 Chevrolet Monte Carlo. All have 3.8-liter V6 engines.

Over time, a valve cover gasket can degrade, allowing oil to seep out. Under hard braking, oil drops can fall onto the exhaust manifold and catch fire. Flames can spread to a plastic spark plug wire channel and the rest of the engine.

The problem first surfaced in 2007, when 21 consumer complaints about engine fires in some of the cars prompted the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to investigate. That probe found three injuries. Most of the blazes happened five to 15 minutes after the engines were turned off, according to agency documents.

The investigation led to the recall in March 2008 of more than 200,000 U.S. cars with supercharged engines. A year later GM recalled almost 1.5 million more cars that weren't supercharged. Dealers replaced the spark plug wire channels but documents filed with the government don't mention any repair of the oil leaks.

GM hasn't come up with a final fix in the most recent recall, spokesman Alan Adler said. The company will use state registration databases in an effort to track down the owners, he said. The 1,300 fires were discovered when GM began investigating whether to recall some 2004 models, Adler said.

The recall is so large that it could have an impact on GM's fourth-quarter earnings, although Adler said that hasn't been determined.

"Since we have not decided on the remedy, we do not know whether the cost will result in a material charge to earnings," he said.
Don't the fires typically start in the back of the engine bay, not the front as suggested by the "heavy braking" causing the oil leakage?
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yes a lot of the cars I've looked at show the fire more intense at the rear. but don't forget on the W body when the engine mounts sags the engine leans farther back into the engine bay. so what you get is the rear valve cover actually has oil sitting up next to the gasket where the front does not so your rear is more likely to seep.

I am still quite curious as to why they didn't just RTV them in the original recalls
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I am still quite curious as to why they didn't just RTV them in the original recalls
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Maybe I should start parking mine outside at night. I don't need it to take out our place, along with my 2 neighbors
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I'm hoping mine will burn down the house so that I can build a garage with a loft house
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Although, neither of my valve covers leak. So, theoretically, I'm golden according to GM
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