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because free iron heads do so poorly....
Almost certainly no. The gears are expensive to machine and the chain itself is absolutely ridiculous, even if you buy it in quantity.
Honestly though, we're not having issues with the 7/8th's chains. We've learned a lot over the years and much of what we learned is that we were running the transmissions to shift way harder than they needed to. 10 years ago your beginning mods were a 3.4 pulley, PCM, Intake plugs and thermostat and it was strongly suggested to get the shift kit too which most people would install at max firm and then combine with the raised shift pressure of the PCM.
So we had people with 3.4 setups breaking input shafts with regularity. How often do we see that now? It's almost unheard of.
The secret is to not jack up your shifting to neck snapping levels. I would have no reservations running a 400whp turbo setup on a stock transmission with stock shift firmness. You can get a lot of miles out of a setup like that. Fuck, Ron STILL has his stock transmission in his car and we all know how he beat the snot out of that.
The only area you really can't compensate for is launches at the track. If you're launching on slicks then you're going run into issues on a torque heavy car. Those are the cars that might need the 1" chain. For any kind of street car though, I'd go 2.93 7/8ths before I'd go 1".
Honestly though, we're not having issues with the 7/8th's chains. We've learned a lot over the years and much of what we learned is that we were running the transmissions to shift way harder than they needed to. 10 years ago your beginning mods were a 3.4 pulley, PCM, Intake plugs and thermostat and it was strongly suggested to get the shift kit too which most people would install at max firm and then combine with the raised shift pressure of the PCM.
So we had people with 3.4 setups breaking input shafts with regularity. How often do we see that now? It's almost unheard of.
The secret is to not jack up your shifting to neck snapping levels. I would have no reservations running a 400whp turbo setup on a stock transmission with stock shift firmness. You can get a lot of miles out of a setup like that. Fuck, Ron STILL has his stock transmission in his car and we all know how he beat the snot out of that.
The only area you really can't compensate for is launches at the track. If you're launching on slicks then you're going run into issues on a torque heavy car. Those are the cars that might need the 1" chain. For any kind of street car though, I'd go 2.93 7/8ths before I'd go 1".
I wouldn't even worry about spinning the tires... That's not what kills the chain. It's people that spin the tires and don't roll out of the spin gently... People that light em up and then just let off the throttle so they catch. That will have more of an affect on the chain.
Id also add that launching off the converter is an easier launch on the hard parts than just stabbing the throttle from idle, it pre-loads all the drive parts against the brakes so it is less of an impact/load spike when you start moving.
As silly as it sounds, if I did a burn out in my car, I'd ride it out and just lightly let up on the throttle so it would eventually spin down and catch gently. Sometimes you need to commit to a burnout a little longer than you'd like to but whatevs. That's what the kids say. Whatevs.
Yes, absolutely. There's a lot that can be done to avoid hard part damage... lighter, smaller wheels, smaller rotors, 2.93 gear set and a higher stall for the street would delay a little of the initial drivetrain shock if you just goose it.
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