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... how about running e85 in a stock gtp?

No mods needed other than an adjustment of the ITR table to account for the E85. Or change the commanded AFR to E85. My car had an intake/DP as the only mods, E85 on stock injectors. They were maxed at 23-ish IPW's but it worked. 21* of timing all day, no KR at all. It moved out pretty well. Any more mods it would require bigger injectors.
 

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You will need bigger injectors, and should get yourself a GOOD fuel pump rewire. (Caspers or Racetronix) You should pick up some decent power from it.
 

rocket5979

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... how about running e85 in a stock gtp?

I just don't see the point of running E85 in a stock or near stock vehicle even if it comes from the factory with forced induction. Too much of a hassle to find stations that have it while daily driving for the benefit you get. Now for a more seriously modded FI car that really needs the anti-knock benefit of E85 then I think the net gains outweigh the negatives enough to justify the switch.
 

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I just don't see the point of running E85 in a stock or near stock vehicle even if it comes from the factory with forced induction. Too much of a hassle to find stations that have it while daily driving for the benefit you get. Now for a more seriously modded FI car that really needs the anti-knock benefit of E85 then I think the net gains outweigh the negatives enough to justify the switch.

The way they price it around here I figured out the gas mileage for my dads yukon and its cheaper to use regular, same with my friends 1500hd possibly with a car it may be different but mine only gets 15ish mpg with e85 My suv gets 20+ mpg with 87
 

02BlueGT

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The way they price it around here I figured out the gas mileage for my dads yukon and its cheaper to use regular, same with my friends 1500hd possibly with a car it may be different but mine only gets 15ish mpg with e85 My suv gets 20+ mpg with 87

Cheaper to use regular, but when you look that E85 is usually 10% - 15% cheaper than 87 pump. We all run 93 pump which is 10% - 15% more expensive than 87 pump.

simply put, 93 costs 20% - 30% more than e85, since you burn 30% more e85 than you would 93, the cost is the same to SLIGHTLY more expensive to run E85.

I did the math over a month period, and I spent something like $8 more to run e85 than 93 would have cost me.
 

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People claim that E85 will have different ethanol concentrations for different location and times of year. I have used it for several years and have driven anywhere from Ohio to STL to my current location and have never had any issue. I have a wideband and can't say that I have really seen any measurable difference. My WOT AFR was pretty much always dead on the same no matter what time of year too. At least it wasn't a big enough difference to make things "dangerous" for driving WOT or even really notice a change
 

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There is a kit out that I want to put on my car which I need to find the link. It uses a gm flex fuel sensor in the kit. But his reads real time e85 percentages.

I only use it in my cobra so the availability and price are what I am looking for. 100 is way to expensive and is harder to find than e85. So I went that route.
 
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