3800 Recommendations on new build
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Aww fuck it.
Honestly, the only way I would ever run a "built" 3800 is if Tischler did the build himself. Ive seen his work and it is better then any other "rebuild" Ive ever seen. Even by a shop. If that is too much money for you, get a stock L36 block.
Make sure you get a good shop to do the heads. Theres a shop in MN that ports heads and their stock valve heads make IS3 heads look silly up to about 500 lift. After that, the IS3 heads take a small lead to 600. Very small lead.
If you go with a custom cam, get your heads done first, and use the flow numbers from the heads to spec out the cam.
Get the ZZP IC. The ILGPC/WBS whatever gen/Intense ICs are decent, but teh cores suck and will eventually start leaking/warping.
Nothing wrong with that if you are going with a L36
Id polish the blower and TB at best. Have the same shop that does your heads do the LIM. Nice and even match.
Frees up some power.
Definatly.
You have some good ideas going. Like I said, if you want the engine built, Mark Tischler is the man to seek. If you want a custom cam, do your heads first and base the cam off the flow numbers of the heads.
Honestly, the only way I would ever run a "built" 3800 is if Tischler did the build himself. Ive seen his work and it is better then any other "rebuild" Ive ever seen. Even by a shop. If that is too much money for you, get a stock L36 block.
Make sure you get a good shop to do the heads. Theres a shop in MN that ports heads and their stock valve heads make IS3 heads look silly up to about 500 lift. After that, the IS3 heads take a small lead to 600. Very small lead.
If you go with a custom cam, get your heads done first, and use the flow numbers from the heads to spec out the cam.
Get the ZZP IC. The ILGPC/WBS whatever gen/Intense ICs are decent, but teh cores suck and will eventually start leaking/warping.
Nothing wrong with that if you are going with a L36
Id polish the blower and TB at best. Have the same shop that does your heads do the LIM. Nice and even match.
Frees up some power.
Definatly.
You have some good ideas going. Like I said, if you want the engine built, Mark Tischler is the man to seek. If you want a custom cam, do your heads first and base the cam off the flow numbers of the heads.
Put a turbo on it and be done. Or, buy a car that doesnt need $7k worth of parts to go fast. I loved working on the grand am when I had it, as much of a turd as it was. After getting the TBSS I want to slap myself silly for all of the money I dumped into it. This truck would have a built 408 in it right now and be able to run bottom 11s for the money I would have spent to finish that car.
LS4....beats cam'd, juice'd, ic'd GTPs all day long
Just get something that isnt FWD and has v8 and it will smoke the GXP too
But why twin charge? Just single 70mm turbo, no boost while daily driving and when you get on it do a 3-5 count and bam you'll be going fast
you can run the l36 with a turbo...
i would HIGHLY suggest running a stock block, whether it's l36/l67, you'll be better off spending money on mods that make power, rather than raising the likelyhood of an engine failure. with 6k, you can make 450whp, including the trans, doing the work yourself.
i would HIGHLY suggest running a stock block, whether it's l36/l67, you'll be better off spending money on mods that make power, rather than raising the likelyhood of an engine failure. with 6k, you can make 450whp, including the trans, doing the work yourself.
While you can go turbo with higher compression like phatride said, I myself would rather go with a lower compression like your L67 so you can turn up zee booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost.
Id wait to see what ZZP is coming up with. There is a thread on CGP with Matt asking others what they would like to see with the new kit. This could drive people to upgrade and you can see used Z7s coming up in the classifieds for cheap.
Cartuning is hit or miss. I went over the kit Charles from DHP had in his 04 and it looked slick. Ive also seen some hacked up kits as well. Customer service from Kevin is horrible if you live south of Canada.
Or you can just get the Z7 exhaust plumbing and custom do your own kit like KJ did. He however had some good help with the fab.
Cartuning is hit or miss. I went over the kit Charles from DHP had in his 04 and it looked slick. Ive also seen some hacked up kits as well. Customer service from Kevin is horrible if you live south of Canada.
Or you can just get the Z7 exhaust plumbing and custom do your own kit like KJ did. He however had some good help with the fab.
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