3800 New here! Have SC questions

[bodydrop95]

I just bought a 05 grand prix gt. 42000 miles. What would be th easiest way to put a supercharger setup on it. Like factory. I’m on a budget. This is an everyday driver. What will I need to do? And who should I go with.

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[Burtonrider10022]

Y R U YELLING

 

[Burtonrider10022]

and check out wbodystore.com, they have an upgrade kit that will put a factory supercharger on there for about a grand

 

[Mook]

you gotta click the caps lock off mang

 

[Burtonrider10022]

what?

 

[Mook]

i edited his post so it wasnt all in caps, then said he needs to type w/o the caps on

 

[bodydrop95]

sorry guys

 

[Fish]

and check out wbodystore.com, they have an upgrade kit that will put a factory supercharger on there for about a grand

It can be done for less.

Basic list off the top of my head.

M90
Throttle body
Matching lower intake manifold
L67/32 heads
L67/32 injectors
L32 fuel rails
L67/32 MAP
L67/32 crank pulley
Tuned PCM

I think there might be a thing or two I am missing, but that is the nitty gritty.

 

[Burtonrider10022]

i was only trying to help Fishy

 

[Fish]

Its a good place to start and Im sure Mike will try to help any way he can. I was just saying the parts themselves can be had for less if you are on a budget.

 

[Burtonrider10022]

did u just compliment mike?

 

[Fish]

No. I said he would help the guy if he bought parts from him. That would be his job.

 

[Burtonrider10022]

whew, i was like WHOA

 

[bodydrop95]

thank you guys i just wanna swap it over i have a race car but i want this ti be a fun daily driver also in the kit it said it came with heads do i need to swap heads and cam just to put the factory type charger on

 

[Fish]

You dont need to swap the cam. The heads you do need to swap since the injectors enter through the LIM on the N/A version and through the heads on the S/C version. You could also go with ZZPs SS M90 kit which will let you keep your heads and crank pulley since they use that to spin the blower. I havent checked into that in awhile so you might want to look it up.

 

[sp_dynasty]

turbo????

 

[bodydrop95]

turbo cost alot more then just doin a factory swap

 

[sp_dynasty]

this is true but turbos are fun just a suggestion

 

[bodydrop95]

i know i like turbo cars i had a 87 t type which was my old race car now i have a 99 camaro ss on juice h/c/i car

 

[sp_dynasty]

id like to go turbo with mine but its not cheap... maybe someday ill pull the s/c and go turbo

 

[bodydrop95]

yeah this 05 is my daily driver what is this motor considered generation what

 

[02BlueGT]

It is a Series 3 3800, L26 or the NA (yours) and L32 for the Supercharged, the 97-03 GP's are a Series 2 3800. L36 for the Na and L67 for the SC....

Not to be confused with the M90, cause the series 2 3800 has the Gen 3 m90, while the series 3 3800 has the gen 5 M90......I hope that wasn't too confusing:smile:

 

[bodydrop95]

is this newer moter suposed to be better or what if any one has the stuff to swap it over and supercharge it let me know lookin for a deal

 

[1998gpgt]

Well you would need a Gen V SC for whichever option you choose. None of the vendors make a gen 3 M90 to L32/L26 TB adapter. So the topswap would end up being well over $1000, while the SS kit will be approaching $1500 if you buy all of ZZP's parts. My old ghetto-rigged SS kit setup cost a lot less because I didn't buy the blower or the fuel logs from ZZP. The blower was modded to work with a die grinder and modded L67 fuel rails were used. And I don't think ZZP offers returnless SS kit fuel logs so your only option would be to frankenstein your own set of rails together.

The only real positive to the SS kit is that it is much easier to install. Besides that the topswap is better in every aspect. So basically a topswap is the only option to consider in supercharging your car. Here is what my cheap ass rail setup looked like

 

[02BlueGT]

Oh, I forgot to add TopSwap = FTW .....I love boost and SC whine