Teacher Salaries

Mystic Terminator

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Look up your local teacher salaries...

http://www.thechampion.org/teacher/cgi-bin/teacher.pl?ssd=listdist&year=2005



Old relevant article from 2005:

Editorial: Taxpayers, beware school-reform talk


5/23/2005

By Dennis Byrne, a Chicago-area writer and consultant

Chicago Tribune

`Hundreds rally for higher taxes."

Now that's something I'm sorry I missed, but the Copley News Service duly reported that last week "hundreds," indeed, "descended" on lawmakers in Springfield to demand higher taxes for education, which mostly means higher salaries for administrators and teachers.

Lobbyists, three deep, cornered hapless legislators, as the perennial arm-twisting began for "education funding reform," under which individual and corporate income taxes would be raised and property taxes lowered. This has been called a tax "swap," and the concept has merit. But while the name suggests an even trade-off by offsetting an increase in the progressive income tax with a reduction in the regressive property tax, this year's bill does anything but.

Thanks to a splendid reporting job last week by Tribune reporter Diane Rado, we discovered that when you combine the income and property taxes under this year's bill, some homeowners would pay a lot more. Like 20 percent more, ranging up to 40 percent. That is unconscionable.

The unsurprising and justifiable outrage probably had something to do with the bill's sponsor, state Sen. James Meeks, an independent from Calumet City, deciding on Thursday to postpone a vote on the bill, effectively killing it. But not before Ralph Martire, executive director of the Center for Tax and Budget Accountability, insisted that no resident's tax burden would go up more than 1.3 percent. With such different views of what the bill does, it's no wonder that one lobbyist said some legislators apparently don't understand the bill. To which I'd add that in light of the Tribune's numbers, some lobbyists might not have a grip either.

Nothing was unclear, though, about the dire warnings. Jeff Cohn, a school board member at Rich Township High School District 227, was quoted in the Daily Southtown with this doomsday prediction: "If we don't get this passed, it means our school will collapse, business will leave and people won't be able sell their homes." Everyone is entitled to a bit of hyperbole, but why didn't he also throw in something about a tsunami bearing down on the south suburbs?

Since he brought up Rich Township High School District 227, let's look at it. According to the Illinois State Board of Education, this on-the-brink-of-collapsing school district last school year paid 47 of its administrators and teachers more than $100,000 in the last school year. After those 47, came 40 who made $90,000 to $100,000, and another 25 lined up after that making $80,000 to $90,000. The highest paid teacher got $131,378, while the average pay was $69,309--for nine months of work. The average administrator salary was $100,549. Topping everyone was the assistant district superintendent, at $194,847. The township's median family income in 2000 was $55,618.

But why pick on Rich Township? You can get figures for any school employee or district in the state by going to www.thechampion.org/schools/salaries.asp. This informative site was put together by the Family Taxpayers Network, using figures for the previous school year provided by the state school board under a Freedom of Information Act request.

So, the state's highest paid administrator was the business manager in north suburban Stevenson District 125, who received $302,746. In 43 state school districts, the average administrative salary topped $100,000. The DuPage County Puffer-Hefty School District 69, with 380 students, topped the list with an average administrative salary of $184,059. (That figure was ballooned by the superintendent's $280,417 annual salary.) Statewide, 38 administrators pulled down more than $200,000.

The state's highest paid teacher ($173,077) worked for the Chicago Public Schools. Outside of Chicago, the honor went to a driver's education teacher at Leyden Community High School District 212, who got $167,389. The highest teachers' average annual salary ($80,082) was paid at Township High School District 211 in the northwest suburbs.

In Chicago, administrators averaged $100,387, with the biggest check going to administrator William McGowan ($224,196). Altogether, more than 1,000 Chicago administrators and teachers were paid more than $100,000 annually.

Northbrook District 28 gave 12 people checks for more than $100,000 for shepherding all of 1,800 students through elementary and junior high school.

Yes, I know that I'm focusing on the higher end of the salary range and that many administrators and teachers--mostly outside the Chicago area--get less. And true, teachers have tough and important jobs. I admire what they do, and because I believe we all should be able to get whatever we can for our talents, I don't begrudge them the money. We all expect much from them, and they ought to be paid well. But just how much is, well, up to the taxpayers to know, and to decide, the next time that the education lobby comes up with such a horrible idea.
 

zenriddles

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This was/Is a big issue in Dupage County.

I was Screaming about it LAST Year too. These A$$HOLE $90k + a Year teachers Refused to work a full day because they didn't get their Courtesy 5% raise. All the kids had to stay in school for the daily Hour load, just no 7th class was taught so they could either go home or sit in unattended study halls until the busses came at they "end" of the school day.

Then, THIS Year, they get an "Emergency" tax referrendum passed by the narrowest of margins. They get their raise - No Money towards the school upkeep, etc. So We'll get THAT tax increase next.

This whole STATE is F**KED!!
OH YEAH - We NEED School Reform - A Boot in the A$$ and hire a few displaced teachers from New Orleans who are probably looking for work right now!

I want OUT. $90k/yr to work 9 months in district 87 and You're going to hold back Work? DISMISSED!

Rant NOT OFF!
 

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Snowman

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Theres two ways to look at this. Pay higher taxes and keep the scumbags out of the community or pay low taxes and live in a craphole town. The school district is what makes the town and attracts the tax revenue and better quality residents. Better tax revenue means better city services like police and fire and your street gets plowed in the winter. You end up saving money on your propeerty insurance and your house appreciates better and is easier to sell. A lot of the teachers around here have masters and Phd's. You get what you pay for. You dont want to be like California with the State Board of Education telling school districts that they could only spend x-amount on schools. They fell way behind the curve in the 80's and 90's and are still in trouble. This is one area where you just got to spend the bucks.
 

mustangmike2003

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Snowman said:
Theres two ways to look at this. Pay higher taxes and keep the scumbags out of the community or pay low taxes and live in a craphole town. The school district is what makes the town and attracts the tax revenue and better quality residents. Better tax revenue means better city services like police and fire and your street gets plowed in the winter. You end up saving money on your propeerty insurance and your house appreciates better and is easier to sell. A lot of the teachers around here have masters and Phd's. You get what you pay for. You dont want to be like California with the State Board of Education telling school districts that they could only spend x-amount on schools. They fell way behind the curve in the 80's and 90's and are still in trouble. This is one area where you just got to spend the bucks.

good point
 

Mystic Terminator

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Snowman said:
Theres two ways to look at this. Pay higher taxes and keep the scumbags out of the community or pay low taxes and live in a craphole town. The school district is what makes the town and attracts the tax revenue and better quality residents. Better tax revenue means better city services like police and fire and your street gets plowed in the winter. You end up saving money on your propeerty insurance and your house appreciates better and is easier to sell. A lot of the teachers around here have masters and Phd's. You get what you pay for. You dont want to be like California with the State Board of Education telling school districts that they could only spend x-amount on schools. They fell way behind the curve in the 80's and 90's and are still in trouble. This is one area where you just got to spend the bucks.

We looked up teacher salaries @ stepdaughters school. Worst teachers were getting paid twice what the good teachers were getting. The good teachers have only 5 ~ 10 years experience whereas the worst teachers had 25 ~ 35. Daughters teacher has so much PTO built up she takes every Monday off, 1/2 of all Fridays off and several weeks alltogether during the school year. Out of the 180 school days she made it to class 90... It really disrupts the classroom and she should have retired a long time ago. There should be a cap on salaries. Come on, a Fuckin Librarian earning 130,000.00 is going to benefit me, but one earning half that and my child will get a poor education?
 

zenriddles

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Snowman said:
This is one area where you just got to spend the bucks.

Phuk That.

EVERYBODY has taken Salary hits across the last 5 - 8 years. Look at Airline Pilots - Most are making like 1/2 - 2/3 of what they were a few years back. They were grossly overpaid and the market couldn't/Didn't Have to carry the burden of the Pork anymore so things changed.
I don't see planes dropping out of the sky any more often than when they were paid double.

I bet there are LOTS of qualified teachers out there who's LOVE to make 50G's a year but don't. Let's get some more of the FAT out of the Budget, Not make excuses for Business as Usual. If they want to leave after their paycut, I'm good with that.
I don't care HOW Many pieces of paper they have on the wall saying that they can pass a test, They are NOT WORTH THAT MUCH. PERIOD.
 

fastfocus

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mustangmike2003 said:
it depends what kind of cop you are.....if you fight true crime then Id say we need more of those kind of cops. If your the kind of cop that likes to harass me for no front plate, then id say become a teacher.


lmao.. the front plate law is GAY!... i a car guy, i not gonna car about that stuff... i actually gonna go after the people that deserve what they gonna get...
 

Unoid

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Snowman said:
Theres two ways to look at this. Pay higher taxes and keep the scumbags out of the community or pay low taxes and live in a craphole town. The school district is what makes the town and attracts the tax revenue and better quality residents. Better tax revenue means better city services like police and fire and your street gets plowed in the winter. You end up saving money on your propeerty insurance and your house appreciates better and is easier to sell. A lot of the teachers around here have masters and Phd's. You get what you pay for. You dont want to be like California with the State Board of Education telling school districts that they could only spend x-amount on schools. They fell way behind the curve in the 80's and 90's and are still in trouble. This is one area where you just got to spend the bucks.

You're forgetting that low income poeple get pay literally no taxes.

And a lot of tax dollars go for socialistic services like welfare, foodstamps,etc. etc.
 

Mystic Terminator

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This Librarian went from $89,243 in 1999 to $130,062 in 2005, a 45% increase. In my job we get 2.5 ~ 3.2% pay increase/year and take backs as far as benefits go. So while my wages were essentially flat, C.W.'s went up 45% in 6 years or an average of 7.5% per year.

Do your wages go up 7.5% per year?

C.W.'s annual pension is $95,070 if he/she retires now. with an annual increase of 3%.
 

01Cobra3379

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Rotzs99 said:
Holy CRAP! My dad is on there...I never knew.

yeah, found my mom, WOW!

Maybe it's because my mom has been a teacher/social worker for over 30 years now, but why shouldn't people be paid what they were told they would be paid? I mean, you are pointing out valid points, that most the older teachers aren't as good as some of the younger teachers, but who are we to say what they get paid? They are union workers who are taking advantage of what they are being offered. Why bitch about it? Yeah, our tax money goes to thier paychecks, but thats the way it works... I live in naperville, and i pay almost $6k on my peoperty taxes, but i also spent 13 years in one of the best school districts in the world and wouldn't want it any other way. Were all my teachers perfect? Were some of the older teachers worth the money they get paid? Who's to say they weren't, the fact that they have masters degrees and PhD's make them deserve what they are getting paid, in my opinion. If you worked in the same field for over 20 years, shouldn't you be making more then $70k? Thats not even that much money. My mom has over 30 years experience, a masters and PhD, and her 25 year old son makes more then she does. That doesn't seem right, does it?

I dunno, i mean, sure theaching isn't the most glamorous job out there, but who are we to say that they shouldn't get paid what they were promised? If everybody were perfect at their job, we would be a much more efficent society and everything would be cheaper. But its never going to happen. So get over it...
 

blubyu

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I have no problem with teachers making 100-150K year, I just think they need to be held up to some high standards. Also, they should be continuing their education constantly. Teachers in the Bahamas make almost the same as lawyers because it's considered that important to lift the poverty stricken children up to a higher level.

Now these crazy pension plans...... that's a different story.
 

Mean Mr Mustang

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I can understand the teachers who have been teaching for years making big bucks. As you spend time on the job your salary should increase, even though I think 100k+ a year is kinda excessive in some cases. The part I cant understand is the ones who are fresh out of college and have only been working for a few years are mostly doing the bitching about not being paid enough.

One thing to think about.
"Top 100 Administrators w/ James Hints earning 361,146.00 per year. That is over 1/3 million dollars."
This guy is making almost $1000.00 per day looking from the 365 day year perspective!!!
 
Trachers

When I was in school teachers sucked and still do most of them are little winy bitches

Fire all the teachers and home school your kids. They will probably learn more. My kids a (boy and a girl) will be tearing shit down when they are 8 years old. How gives a shit about what they teach in school anyways. Look at me I went through their system and cant spell and my grammar sucks. The only thing me and all my friends learned was how to fuck off all day
 

Rotzs99

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Mean Mr Mustang said:
I can understand the teachers who have been teaching for years making big bucks. As you spend time on the job your salary should increase, even though I think 100k+ a year is kinda excessive in some cases. The part I cant understand is the ones who are fresh out of college and have only been working for a few years are mostly doing the bitching about not being paid enough.

One thing to think about.
"Top 100 Administrators w/ James Hints earning 361,146.00 per year. That is over 1/3 million dollars."
This guy is making almost $1000.00 per day looking from the 365 day year perspective!!!

My dad just retired after 34 years. The number may be high but considering half of those years he risked life and limb trying to teach indian kids how to drive, im proud of him.
 
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