Pricing for the GT500...

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My problem with the car is the weight, everything else is fine.

As far as price, what the hell are people complaining about? My 2004 Cobra stickered for $36,000. Three years later a car with 110 more hp and tons more torque cost $4,000 more. What gives? :dunno:

Where can you get a nice 500 hp car for $40k?

It's a heavy pig....other than than I like what you get for your money.
 

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[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]Sirius = $195 (MSRP), $170 (invoice).
Premium Trim Pkg = $595 (MSRP), $518 (invoice).
Shaker 1000 = $1,295 (MSRP), $1,127 (invoice)

Those are the only options that I've heard.





seriously... if you were in the market for a $45K "sports car" which would you choose? a C6 Vette or and GT 500 Mustang?




hrrm... not really a tough choice for me....



C6 all the way

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gnxs said:
My problem with the car is the weight, everything else is fine.

As far as price, what the hell are people complaining about? My 2004 Cobra stickered for $36,000. Three years later a car with 110 more hp and tons more torque cost $4,000 more. What gives? :dunno:

Where can you get a nice 500 hp car for $40k?

It's a heavy pig....other than than I like what you get for your money.


People are complaining because:

  1. It's heavy as hell, with a solid axle (not the vehicle specific IRS that was originally stated)
  2. That 500HP is not under rated like the '03/04's... as a result the real hp disparity is about 75, not 110hp
  3. based on 3 magazine tests, it only runs 12.7 - 12.9 @ 112-117
  4. it's not the 'Vette killer most of us had thought it would be
  5. the dealer mark up is insane
Mark my words, within a year of full production the GT500's will selling at or below MSRP.


They're building 9,000 of these the first year... and around 11K the second year...
 

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as for saying that the '03/04 Cobra was $36K


no offense to those that paid sticker or more for their car... but I would never pay anything close to that amount. In my opinion the '03/04 weren't worth more than $30-32K+TTL

I know most of you will argue otherwise but that's my opinion. sorry if I disagree with the majority.


case in point, my cousin purchased his brand new left over 2003 Cobra with 84 miles on the odometer for $22,800+TTL... my buddy bought his brand new '04 for $28,000 + TTL


and yes I do realize that used Cobra's are going for $28-32K currently.


Like I said, I may not be right, but that is my opinion.
 

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ShelbyGuy said:
but damn that c6 z06 would make such a nice road course car.....im definately tempted.....

[font=&quot]That is currently my attainable dream car.


that car looks so damn sexy... I have dirty thoughts about it


but $65K+ is a bit steep for me


maybe if I sold all three of my cars, and chamfered my wife to work in the Z06
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I don't think Cobras and Vettes were ever really meant to compete with each other, it's sort of evolving that way. One's a sports car, one is a pony car. The Cobra doesn't have it's "natural" competitor across the lot at GM at the moment (the high-po versions of the f-body), so people have climbed GM's ladder to the Vettes for comparison.

As for the pricing, the only thing you can really compare is sticker, because it's a constant. Dealer mark-ups or blowouts, depending on the circumstances, vary based on alot of factors. I didn't get robbed on my Cobra (or pay sticker), but I didn't steal it either.

BTW, I heard some other publication got a 12.2@117 out af a new GT500.
 

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gnxs said:
I don't think Cobras and Vettes were ever really meant to compete with each other, it's sort of evolving that way. One's a sports car, one is a pony car. The Cobra doesn't have it's "natural" competitor across the lot at GM at the moment (the high-po versions of the f-body), so people have climbed GM's ladder to the Vettes for comparison.

As for the pricing, the only thing you can really compare is sticker, because it's a constant. Dealer mark-ups or blowouts, depending on the circumstances, vary based on alot of factors. I didn't get robbed on my Cobra (or pay sticker), but I didn't steal it either.

BTW, I heard some other publication got a 12.2@117 out af a new GT500.


I realize that the GT500 isn't a direct competitor of a Vette, but it's priced that way... and they both have a similar purpose.

do you have a link for that 12.2@117

here's a 12.7@117 http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1366

a 500HP car running high 12's is extremely crappy in my opinion.
 

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I realize that the GT500 isn't a direct competitor of a Vette, but it's priced that way... and they both have a similar purpose.

do you have a link for that 12.2@117

here's a 12.7@117 http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1366

a 500HP car running high 12's is extremely crappy in my opinion.

I'll find it Jack.

About the times...well yea it's a heavy pig. ;) The GT500 at 3400 pounds would be a completely different vehicle. Ford dropped the ball on that aspect of the car.
 

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gnxs said:
I'll find it Jack.

About the times...well yea it's a heavy pig. ;) The GT500 at 3400 pounds would be a completely different vehicle. Ford dropped the ball on that aspect of the car.


I thought this stat was very interesting:

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica][/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica]C5 Z06 -[/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica] 355rwhp 3150lb = 8.87lbs./hp

[/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica]GT500 - [/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica] 440rwhp 3900lb = 8.86lbs./hp[/font]
 

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Cobra Jack said:
I thought this stat was very interesting:

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]C5 Z06 -[/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica] 355rwhp 3150lb = 8.87lbs./hp

[/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica]GT500 - [/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica]440rwhp 3900lb = 8.86lbs./hp[/font]

Sounds about right. They'll both trap similarly in the 1/4 mile.

BTW, here's the link I saw:

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1083
 

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All I can say about the GT500 is its coming out underwhelming. The 5.0 Mustang article was very low-key and you don't expect that from something being called the baddest Mustang ever. Yes, we are bcoming jaded by these high-hp cars with a/c, but by comparison they went ape sh!t over the Terminator and we thought THOSE were heavy. 4040# is a disgrace...and so are those hood vents. LOL
 

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VenomInside said:
I got this off of SVTP from a guy who says he has very very good sources..

Its Official, Pricing

Coupe 40,930
vert 45,755
GG 1,300
D&D 745.00

Now, that is w/o tax, title etc and dealer markups...

Thoughts? Other cars are looking mighty nice.. dont cha think? :dunno:

*FLAME SUIT ON*
without the mark up...maybe, but it looks to be an easy $5X,XXX something car, and that it is not worth :dunno: (IMO)
 

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gnxs said:
My problem with the car is the weight, everything else is fine.

As far as price, what the hell are people complaining about? My 2004 Cobra stickered for $36,000. Three years later a car with 110 more hp and tons more torque cost $4,000 more. What gives? :dunno:

Where can you get a nice 500 hp car for $40k?

It's a heavy pig....other than than I like what you get for your money.
Mine was bought new the sticker was $40,500
I got her for $37,371.21 and was pleased and would pay $40,000
if I didn't like this one so much :dunno: (but not the mark-up) too :eek:
 

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It's all supply and demand. If you want to be the first on the block with something in short supply, you pay a premium. Not just GT500's, any car. Same thing at the time for a stock 2005 Mustang GT (which was hardly an overwhelming performer).

Some dealers had a $3,000 "Adjusted Market Value" on Grand Nationals when I bought mine back in 1986. :dunno:
 

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i wont ever pay that much money on that car because.



# 1 The looks on that car are nothing like the 03/04 cobra.

# 2 I don’t want to drive around in a car that says Shelby in the back

# 3 if I buy the car I would want to pulley and tune it right away but if the early run models have problems I’m screwed because I just voided my warranty

# 4 its way to heavy and they should put the IRS back on. Well I love mine at least.



I’ll keep my Terminator. :headbang:
 

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Cobra Jack said:
a 500HP car running high 12's is extremely crappy in my opinion.

You expect a driver for a magazine to get the best et possible with no practice and street tires????

Wait till Evan Smith gets a hold of one. :biggthump

Trapping 117 shows it has potential... Don't forget we have no idea what kind of air the test was run in. My trap speeds can vary from 116-122 depending on the DA and air temp.

The car is fat pig, no doubt, but I wouldn't call it crappy just cause some magazine driver can't drive.

I am still not selling my terminator for one though. :D
 
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Cobra Jack said:
[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]Sirius = $195 (MSRP), $170 (invoice).
Premium Trim Pkg = $595 (MSRP), $518 (invoice).
Shaker 1000 = $1,295 (MSRP), $1,127 (invoice)

Those are the only options that I've heard.





seriously... if you were in the market for a $45K "sports car" which would you choose? a C6 Vette or and GT 500 Mustang?




hrrm... not really a tough choice for me....



C6 all the way

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i better get my flame suit on!! cause I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!! :chair: :chair:
 
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