A Run with the law

[Jakeman17]

My dad wanted me to go home and drop off a raffle ticket he needed to turn in so i left my friends. I was driving down whatever the name of the road is and the cop pulled out in front of me. on the next side street he turns right and at that point my windows were down. I saw him throw it in reverse and knew he was comming for me. Sure enough he pull me over. Ass hole about it and all. Idk how he knew i had tints but he was the biggest asshole ever so i was not gonna fight him. so here is what i got
1 ticket tint on front windows
1 Warning No Front plate Fixed in 5 days
1 Warning Verbal for no DL on me

Now this week IL is supposed to be passing a tint law. Should I go to court and try to finght the tint ticket or just pay it and let it go?

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[wombat]

So wait, he pulled you over, and your windows were DOWN? Meaning he had NO plausable reasoning to pull you over? (minus maybe a front plate?). He had NO reason to assume you had tinted windows, if your front ones were down. And I'm pretty sure that he can't force you to roll them up or whatever

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

So wait, he pulled you over, and your windows were DOWN? Meaning he had NO plausable reasoning to pull you over? (minus maybe a front plate?). He had NO reason to assume you had tinted windows, if your front ones were down. And I'm pretty sure that he can't force you to roll them up or whatever

Im also pretty sure they cant make you roll them up. If they dont have a warrant, probably cause, or your permission, they cant do shit.

 

[PANDA]

I REALLY would like to know if you have to roll you window up if a cop asks. As far as fighting a tint ticket, nothing really you can do.

 

[M@]

I figure it like this.

(I assume) they can't make you roll them up without probable cause.

He asks you to roll them up, and you tell them no, bingo, they have probable cause to believe you're hiding something. Bullshit abuse of the legal system in my mind, but it'll fly in court, because our traffic law system is, at its' core, unconstitutional.

fuck The Man, I say.

 

[DanJ]

I asked my friend who is a cop and he said that they cannot make you put the windows up but if you refuse and give them a hard time when they think you have tints they are going to keep an eye out for you and get you eventually.

 

[Stink Star]

so the cop is an asshole because you were breaking laws that you knew were well known and established?

now that playing devils advocate is through, i wouldnt have showed him my tints and i would claim the 5th... thats self prosecution

 

[Spicy McHaggiz]

He likely pulled you over for no front license plate. If you complied with his request by rolling your windows up, then its your own fault.

No way to fight it, just because a law is supposed to be passed doesn't mean its in effect, there for your tint is still illegal.

 

[Riski]

Take a picture of your car with the windows down or get a shot oif another car like yours with no tint on your camera phone and go to court, show the DA the picture and said you had it removed and wealk out with no fine or anything

 

[boostedgp]

the picture thing didnt work for me. judge asked me if i had tint on the car at the time i was pulled over and i didnt get dropped.

 

[Jakeman17]

I know tints are illegal but my windows were down. I didnt show him my tints. I had my windows down for like 5 mins before he pulled out in front of me then got behind me. I had my rear windows up but not my front ones

 

[Eagle]

So you got a ticket for front tints when he hadn't seen them at all? The windows were down the entire time? That doesn't make any sense...

 

[Jakeman17]

Yes I know. I do drive that way all the time but this time yes my widows were down.

 

[Primalzer]

Yeah all you're gonna get by trying to fight it is a waste of a couple of hours at court, and some court costs added to your fines.

 

[DanJ]

Something is kinda fishy if he never saw the tints but wrote the ticket... why didn't you question that?

 

[Primalzer]

Is it possible the windows were up before you noticed him then when he pulled in front of you, saw you ALSO had no front plate, and decided that was enough to pull you over.

 

[ThirdgenTa]

Im also pretty sure they cant make you roll them up. If they dont have a warrant, probably cause, or your permission, they cant do shit.

I got pulled over by an asshole cop once. When I had my camaro I always had the t tops off and the windows down. The back hatch was not tinted either. Dude pulls me over says "roll your windows up"... So I did and then he's like "Ok, sweet I got 3 tickets on you now".
I'm pretty sure you don't have to but I they will probably make some bs up and give you a ticket for something else.

 

[importcrew]

My dad wanted me to go home and drop off a raffle ticket he needed to turn in so i left my friends. I was driving down whatever the name of the road is and the cop pulled out in front of me. on the next side street he turns right and at that point my windows were down. I saw him throw it in reverse and knew he was comming for me. Sure enough he pull me over. Ass hole about it and all. Idk how he knew i had tints but he was the biggest asshole ever so i was not gonna fight him. so here is what i got
1 ticket tint on front windows
1 Warning No Front plate Fixed in 5 days
1 Warning Verbal for no DL on me

Now this week IL is supposed to be passing a tint law. Should I go to court and try to finght the tint ticket or just pay it and let it go?

Don't even try to fight the tint law. Technically I believe another law is in effect prior to the tint law. Plus, what percentage tint do you have all around?

 

[02DyeFour]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if the tint law gets passed. You broke the law before it was legal.

Pay it, get over it. They are illegal, everyone knows it. You took the risk in getting them.

 

[importcrew]

WRONG. If an officer asks you to search your car and you decline, it is NOT then probable cause for a search. He will TELL you 'you must be hiding something, therefore now I can search'. But stand firm, it's not PC.

As for fighting it. If you have the time to go to court, ALWAYS fight it; especially movers.

You can't 'fight' tickets really. Even if your windows were down and you testify your windows were down it means nothing. His word > your word. He wouldn't even have to rebuttal, his issuing the ticket is enough. When you go to court to 'fight' something, you look for an error in the ticket itself (works best if it's a LO ticket) or you negotiate with the prosecuting attorney.

For everyone saying this new law isn't in effect yet. Doesn't matter. Traffic court is a whole different ball game. His court date will be 30-45 days from now when the law is in effect. If he goes to the prosecuting attorney and shows him a copy of the change making his tints now legal, I bet you anything the prosecutor lets him off.

Only if the prosecutor isn't a dick about it. He/she can state that the "crime" was committed prior to becoming law therefore it doesn't matter if the defendant made a change to adapt to the new law (being legal). Breaking a law is still breaking a law...doesn't matter if it changed after the fact and before going to court.

 

[Jakeman17]

Here is my fix for no Front LP for now. I want to do something different but idk yet

 

[Euro]

/\/\/that's all I'd do for the front plate! As for the tints, that is fishy....however since he saw your rear window and rear door windows tinted my guess is he assumed...which is also stupid

 

[Jakeman17]

Yes, I told him I was in process of getting a Dr note saying I could have them bc my eye r extremely sensitive for light but im going in Wed for my appointment they r gonnna do a check up and ill see what they do. I didnt get tint for my eyes at first but glad I di bc my eyes now