Amazon Key
- Thread starter Chet Donnelly
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Yeah...I've had some "rough" looking folks drop off some Amazon packages. Not from UPS/FedEx/USPS
Someone told me that when I got a Schlage smart lock a couple years back. I think its a BS argument, because I can get in anyone's house I want a hell of a lot easier than hacking their smart lock!
Yep- it's Dynamex- which has shitty ratings as a company, and it seems like they hire anyone. Had a rough looking dude show up in an early 90s civic that i swear didn't make it up my driveway apron so he parked in the street
Yeah but schlage is a known brand for locks and has always been doing locks. They have a rep to keep up and is good at supporting their products for a long time.
Amazon is not a lock company.
I'd buy a schlage smart Lock, I wouldn't buy a Amazon lock where their drivers can unlock it remotely and the control is also in someone else's hands instead of just your own.
Most cylinders are, if you don't want to do it, a locksmith most likely can but it's pretty easy. Also change the key pad code obviously.
Yeah...but my point is; Anyone can just go to your back door and kick it in without a problem. Or punch a window in. I feel like door locks really give us all a false sense of security.
That said...I agree, I couldn't get myself to let a third party (company or driver) have control over my door locks.
Most of the smart home devices are nothing but programmable logic controllers (PLC's) which have virtually no security built into them. These devices have been around since the 50's and with the internet of things (IoT) have opened up whole new doors in security vulnerabilities.
There are ways to tighten up the security such as airgapping them from your internal wireless network and preventing them from internet access (which pretty much defeats the IoT purpose).
I was at a cyber security task force meeting a few months back where the IT director of Chamberlain garage doors was a panelist and I honestly felt bad for the guy as he was getting hammered in regards to security of his companies products.
What's even scarier is that most of the US's infrastructure (power plants, street lights etc) run off these same PLC's which is why you hear so much in the news of China and Russia hacking our grid (they successfully have many times).
To not totally get off topic there is no way in hell I would let anyone from a delivery company inside my house/garage. I would rather have a waterproof box on the stoop of my doorstep and then use the same example of providing amazon a key or code.
Agreed.
Unless you have a network background, it's very hard for a normal consumer to secure IoT devices while still remaining completely functional which is very unfortunate.
Well of course
but that leaves obvious proof someone broke in.Hacking a smart Lock would leave zero trace of even being in the house unless you have cameras.
I actually try to buy IoT devices that DO NOT require a third party service, thus allowing my devices to be completely blocked off from the internet. Then I just setup a VPN and use that to access my smart devices remotely.
That's my complaint against my garage door opener and ecobee...it requires you to use their webserver for login and accessibility. So the devices have to have internet access. If they stop supporting it, you are forced to upgrade.
That's my complaint against my garage door opener and ecobee...it requires you to use their webserver for login and accessibility. So the devices have to have internet access. If they stop supporting it, you are forced to upgrade.
We had an 'incident' with an amazon delivery person doing this like yesterday......
As in, a gentlemen helped himself into our house to put a package inside the front door as the screen door was closed, but the main door was open. Didn't knock or anything, just fucking helped himself in and placed the packages down inside our house.
[MENTION=4700]Miss Esa[/MENTION] had my gun out at the top of the stairs after hearing someone enter the house (basically 4 steps forward of where the door is), I wonder if that driver will ever know how close he came to loosing his life.
Until Amazon drivers wear uniforms, and only use branded trucks, I don't see this working out well.
Or maybe don't fuckin shoot people who aren't *breaking* and entering?
I hear what you're saying. I personally would never sign up for this shit. I'd rather have someone steal a package out from under my Ring doorbell and have to make an insurance claim with the shipping carrier than let strangers into my home whenever they please. Let alone when that system gets hacked and someone gets codes to all these devices and can enter any home they please....
I hear what you're saying. I personally would never sign up for this shit. I'd rather have someone steal a package out from under my Ring doorbell and have to make an insurance claim with the shipping carrier than let strangers into my home whenever they please. Let alone when that system gets hacked and someone gets codes to all these devices and can enter any home they please....
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