A past life? Ohio boy shares specific details about his life as a Chicago woman who suffered a horrific death | FOX6Now.com
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Young boy explains specific details about a past life as a woman living in Chicago who died in a fire, saw God, and he made him a baby boy.
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Young boy explains specific details about a past life as a woman living in Chicago who died in a fire, saw God, and he made him a baby boy.
CINCINNATI (WITI) â Parents will tell you â kids say and do the darndest things.
âWe used to laugh and call him an old man,â Erika Ruehlman said.
Ruehlman says she found it quirky and cute that her young son, Luke seemed obsessed with safety in and around their suburban Cincinnati home.
âVery cautious about, like, crossing the street â anything that might be hot or dangerous or high,â Ruehlman said.
And then there was that other fixation.
âI think I specifically asked him âwhy did you name your ladybug Pam?â And he said âI just think itâs a nice name,'â Ruehlman said.
Soon, everything was âPam,â with increasingly peculiar comments.
âHe used to say âwhen I was a girl, I had black hair,â or he would say âI used to have earrings like that when I was a girl,'â Ruehlman said.
The stay-at-home mom wondered âwhere was he getting these ideas?â*Lukeâs answer changed their lives.
âI was like âwho is Pamâ out of frustration, and thatâs when he turned to me and looked at me and said âwell, I was.â And I was like âwhat do you mean you were?â And heâs like âwell, I used to be, but I died. I went up to heaven, and I saw God, and he pushed me back down and when I woke up, I was a baby and you named me Luke,'â Ruehlman said.
Now, Ruehlman was really confused.
âShe called me and she said, âyou know, something weird is going on,'â Ruehlmanâs mom, Lisa Trump said.
Trump remembered a book she had read back in the 70s by the late Dr. Ian Stevenson, called âTwenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation.â
âWe started to realize that perhaps we did actually have something there,â Trump said.
âI decided to go ahead and ask him further â âdo you remember how you died?â And he looked right at me, and he said âwell, yeah. It was a fire.â And then he made like, a motion with his hand. Like he was jumping off of a building,â Ruehlman said.
A tall building, in a big city â where Luke said he walked a lot, and took the train.
âI was like âare you sure it was Chicago?â And he was like âyes, I remember it was Chicago. It was Chicago,'â Ruehlman said.
Ruehlman plugged the information into the internet.
âAnd thatâs when I came across the Paxton Hotel,â Ruehlman said.
The Paxton Hotel was a residential building in a predominantly African-American Chicago neighborhood.
âYou know, I just asked him â I was very casual about it, like â âLuke, what color was Pamâs skin?â And he just looked right up at me like â âduh, black,'â Ruehlman said.
In March 1993, a massive fire raced through the Paxton Hotel, trapping most residents. Nineteen people died â including a woman in her 30s named Pamela Robinson.
âPam had jumped out of a window to her death. I was really kind of weirded out by it at this point,â Ruehlman said.
While working with the Lifetime documentary series âGhost Inside My Child,â Erika and Nick Ruehlman decided to put their now five-year-old to the test.
âI printed out a picture of Pam, and we had put it on a sheet of paper with a bunch of fake pictures. I didnât really think that he was going to pick the right one,â Ruehlman said.
But with the cameras rolling, Luke saw âsomeone I can recognize.â Luke said âI remember when this one was taken.â
âAnd he pointed to the correct one,â Ruehlman said.
âIt took me a couple days to wrap my head around it. I couldnât sleep. I thought about it constantly,â Ruehlmanâs mother, Lisa Trump said.
The Ruehlman family says immediately, their thoughts turned to the family of Pamela Robinson â still in the Chicago area. FOX6âs sister station, FOX8 in Cleveland reached out to them. They said âno commentâ at this time.
Erika Ruehlman says she spoke with a family member of Pamela Robinson, and she discovered even more similarities.
âI know that Pam was a big Stevie Wonder fan, and Luke really likes that era of music. She played the keyboard a lot, and one of the things that Luke â his favorite toy at the time was this little tiny piano that he would tote around with him,â Ruehlman said.
Just as Ruehlman was becoming truly connected with Pamâs memory, Luke let her go.
âItâs like he got it all out and he was finished â and he had nothing more to say about it,â Ruehlman said.
But the family continues to share their journey with anyone who will listen â not seeking fame or fortune.
âWe didnât receive any money from the (Ghost Inside My Child) show,â Lisa Trump said.
They tell Lukeâs story because, they say, itâs a message that needs to be told.
âItâs a positive one. Itâs one of unification. Itâs one of love,â Erika Ruehlman said.
âI think it tells us that we shouldnât define the soul by race or gender. Out of the mouth of babes,â Lisa Trump said.
