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Old 04-21-2016, 03:26 PM   #1026
 
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Ok TCG - I'm going to put myself out there. I'm terrible at home renovation stuff... but I've been wanting to get my basement moving along.

I had a buddy help with framing out the basement outside walls a year or so ago - but I haven't moved much further than that yet because I need to get electrical work done down there. I'd like to learn and do some or even MOST of it myself, but I'm sort of clueless. I can build a mean LS motor... but not bend some conduit.

SO - ideally I'd like to find someone and have them work on it with me to show me the basics and I can work on the project alongside them. Anyone know someone who might be willing? I'm probably looking to do this in a month or so, say maybe early June?
Easiest way is to just mess around with it. At one of my old jobs they bought each guy a few bundles of conduit and said to have fun trying to get it all squared away and figure out bends, offsets, saddles, etc.

Conduits like $2 a stick of 10' so no worries if you mess up a bend. After awhile you'll know how much you lose or gain on lengths when bending, etc.

I never know what my schedule looks like, but when you're working on it just post in here and I'd lend a hand if possible.

Do you even need to run conduit in Woodstock or can you use NM ??

I'm going to be gutting and rebuilding another portion of the parents basement in May, so I'll be sure to take lots of pictures that might help as well.
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Appreciate that! The house is all conduit now (we built in 2006) so I just assume continue down that same path.

From there, I need to learn how to understand basics of running wire and how many outlets, lights, TV's etc that I can/should run off a breaker. Also need to figure basics of color coding. Maybe its time to reference my Home Depot 123 book
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+1, get a few scrap sticks of conduit and practice the bends and offsets. Download the app "conduit bender". You plug in your measurements and desired angles for offsets and 3 point bends and it calculates the marks for you.

Definitely check your local electrical code, you may be able to run romex out that way. Unless the rest of your house is conduit, then likely they are following Chicago's code.

Low voltage can be exposed (CATV, cat6, hdmi, speaker wire, etc.)
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Ok TCG - I'm going to put myself out there. I'm terrible at home renovation stuff... but I've been wanting to get my basement moving along.

I had a buddy help with framing out the basement outside walls a year or so ago - but I haven't moved much further than that yet because I need to get electrical work done down there. I'd like to learn and do some or even MOST of it myself, but I'm sort of clueless. I can build a mean LS motor... but not bend some conduit.

SO - ideally I'd like to find someone and have them work on it with me to show me the basics and I can work on the project alongside them. Anyone know someone who might be willing? I'm probably looking to do this in a month or so, say maybe early June?
Believe it or not, YouTube has some great videos on pipe bending ( very easy). I actually learned plumbing from there, saved me 5000$ bill when I added bathroom in the basement. If you're not too far I can come out there and show you, I'm in mount prospect
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That's good, cuz I have low voltage all over the place!
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Home Depot books and google taught me enough about electric to be dangerous. I still will only relocate or add to or remove from a circuit I am not brave enough to start a new one
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Believe it or not, YouTube has some great videos on pipe bending ( very easy). I actually learned plumbing from there, saved me 5000$ bill when I added bathroom in the basement. If you're not too far I can come out there and show you, I'm in mount prospect
Hey man - I really appreciate that offer! I will likely be tackling this in June, have a outpatient surgery coming up and need a bit of recovery time before I tackle this project. Will probably spend some time on Youtube learning - but could definitely use a little experienced teaching to go with it!
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Home Depot books and google taught me enough about electric to be dangerous. I still will only relocate or add to or remove from a circuit I am not brave enough to start a new one
That's sort of where I imagined I would be immediately after learning! Then again, my standard mode of learning is to just throw myself balls deep into a new project and learn! However, this one could burn my house down... so I'm leery of getting too far out of my comfort zone.
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get these two items and use them correctly and you'll be good no matter what



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Thing about electrical work is... it seems so simple and straight forward. Like "too simple" if you know what I mean...

Question I have is, like lets say I want a 30A circuit to the garage. How do I know what gauge wire I should be using?

Also, is there someplace you can go to look up what code you need to adhere to when doing this kind of work? (yes, I know I'd also find out getting a permit and hiring a contractor )
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proper gauge wire for 30a circuit



10ga
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Don't be a dick, Carter.

PS - you didn't answer my question on code smarty pants guy
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I got one question answered.
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Hey man - I really appreciate that offer! I will likely be tackling this in June, have a outpatient surgery coming up and need a bit of recovery time before I tackle this project. Will probably spend some time on Youtube learning - but could definitely use a little experienced teaching to go with it!
No problem, most of the stuff I can explain over the phone, I can pm you my number. I was Union electritian for 10 yrs so the house stuff is pretty much child's play
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15 amp is 14 gauge
20 amp is 12 gauge
30 amp is 10 gauge

Here it is for Woodstock, NEC2008, just click on building code, then on electrical
http://www.sterlingcodifiers.com/cod...hp?book_id=562

If you're running conduit (which you will be according to their code), just make sure you stay under the conduit fill numbers and you're good....

Hopefully it'll be when my schedule is open so I can come help and check out the cars as well (maybe hit up a range after some wiring... LOL) !
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Pic of my panel which has looked this nasty from day 1:


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Plenty of room for more breakers, obviously high amperage feed, and room to exit conduit from the top of the box as well as run it across the ceiling.
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I've got 50 or so feet of left over conduit from my basement project. It's yours if you pick up.
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I like this post ^^^ where u at Phil??
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I like this guy's simple explanation.
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Pic of my panel which has looked this nasty from day 1:


If that's nasty, that means you havent peeked into many circuit breaker panels. LOL
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Oh, and don't buy any low voltage Carlton orange tubing, after I finish the last of the parents basement you'll be more than welcome to whatever's left, great for running cable, phone, Internet, etc.
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That doesn't sound close to Wonder Lake at all!
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