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Old 09-23-2009, 09:06 AM   #1
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Ok, so I hear this is a wise thing to do to minimize play in the motor mounts.

Problem is I can't picture it in my head, so I'm looking for a picture of installed "flipped" dog bone mounts.

I hear they need to be turned 90*... but without seeing it in front of me I don't exactly follow.

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You rotate the bushing in the bracket. right now it is the rubber connects top and bottom with the open sides. Rotate 90 degrees so the bushing is now right to left with the open spots on the top and bottom. This is the square bushings, obviously not the round ones!



Car in park-lock.

You need (2) 17mm? wrenches or a wrench and a socket; a can of WD-40, and 1 beer.

Unbolt the 2 bolts (nothing will happen to you or your car). Remove the bolts from the bracket, and remove the bracket.

Take one of the bolts and tighten it down pretty tight on the front mount, there is a metal substrate inside the mount. What a couple of us did is flex the mount around to spray the WD-40 on the top and the side by the engine. Spray liberally.

Put a wrench on both ends and rotate toward the engine. One or two tries and mine flipped. If it is welded from the engine bay heat, it may take a little more effort, but the WD and a little flexing should take care of it.

Take the bolt back out of the mount, and reassemble. I put the bolt in the engine mouit first, then the radiator mount last. If it doesn't align, you can push the car backwards a little and the mount will line up.

Tighten it pretty good.

Should take about 10 - 15 minutes

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Quote from here.

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You basically turn this....


Into this....


I do it just as Scimmia described, by removing the torque strut (dogbone) from in between the part pictured above and the engine brackets just to get it completely out of the way. Then with the bracket still attached to the car, put the bolt back through the bushing and tighten down the nut completely. Then I take a flat screwdriver and pry the rubber bushing back just enough to spray some lubricant in behind it all the way around. A little WD-40 works good. Then I put a 15mm wrench on the bolt head and another on the nut that I just put back through the rubber bushing and begin pushing the two wrenches towards the engine. Turn them slowly to make sure you are not tearing the bushing and sometimes you have to work them back and forth a little bit to get the entire bushing to "flip" 90 degrees. Once finished, the bushing is now solid on the front and back which is where the engine puts the most force against them as it tries to move back and forth. Then just take the nut off and remove the bolt, reinstall your dogbones, and you're done.
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My car vibrates a lil. Could be because of a bad motor mount too.. Should I do this?
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That's a perfect description. Wd40 or pb blaster helps a ton!

You can fill the remaining holes with black silicone or window poly but no necessary.
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Check your engine mount on the bottom and see if it's leakng oil.
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I did this with my LS4 and nothing but goodness comes from it.
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I'll have to do this too! Thanks for the tips guys
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Ahh! Now I have it with that picture! Thanks!
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One problem with the walk-through emerson posted...

Only one beer?
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Seriously. KJ would have had at least six in that time.
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Very true... I guess I don't drink enough!?!
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Yes I am. I had 4 beers my entire vacation...
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I'm one to talk, since getting married...I can't remember the last time I had 4 beers, I know I had em...just don't remember it.
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Check your engine mount on the bottom and see if it's leakng oil.
I had it looked at. Its leaking right by the bad motor mount. It supposedly is the oil pan gasket. Gotta get bikrboy to fix it for me
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The stock motor mounts are oil filled. I'd double check it. Look and see how close your oil filter is to the subframe. That should tell you.
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I think I will. I do know that it looked very possible that the oil pan was leaking though. Lots of crap and actually some beaten areas. Im not expert but ya never know. I had a a tech at midas look at it....

But he was the regional manager and a good friend of mine. He also was the one that got me the killer deal on my trans rebuild so he was interested.
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I got fllipped ones in my garage just sitting there. Want em?
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I had a set of intense solid ones. So I bought extra dog bones and removed the flipped stockers. They felt roughly the same to me.
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I hear solid aluminum upper mounts are all the rage.......

be a little careful while flipping them. Ive had a few cutomers purchase replacements from us because they tore their old dry rotted ones while trying to flip them
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What's the point? Less vibration feel in the cabin?
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