AMD Ryzen = Intel i7 killer?

[Thirdgen89GTA]

Bit of a click bate title. And no benchmarks yet. Those are what I'm really looking forward to seeing.

But it SOUNDS nice on paper.

i7 8 core performance for half the price of that same i7.

Could be a hype train. Or maybe AMD finally punched back with another Athlon CPU like the did in the P3 vs Athlon wars.

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[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Hmm looks interesting

 

[Flyn]

More speed and half the cost? Bring it on!

 

[bikrboy128]

hopefully AMD got their shit together on this one. it looks promising for sure, but i'll reserve my judgement for when actual people start reviewing these chips. AMD is trying to fuel their hype train, hopefully these chips live up to it

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

hopefully AMD got their shit together on this one. it looks promising for sure, but i'll reserve my judgement for when actual people start reviewing these chips. AMD is trying to fuel their hype train, hopefully these chips live up to it

Unfortunately AMD just can't beat the juggernaut that is Intel. The only part of AMD that has truly been able to fight has been the ATI vs nVidia front. They trade back and forth.


But on the CPU front they fell far behind, they just couldn't match Intel due to the amount of money it takes to build a Fab, or refit it for a new architecture.

The last few generations of AMD processors have been furnaces in terms of how much heat and electricity they use. And even though they were cheaper than Intel, the performance wasn't equal or better at the same power consumption.

I really do hope Ryzen is what they promised. I like rooting for them underdog.

 

[nytebyte]

AMD needs to do something, even if it's just enough to get Intel off their ass to produce something better. Intel really hasn't improved their product line much at all over the years and why should they? They have no competition.

Back when AMD first started selling CPU's, Intel and AMD would constantly leapfrog each other in performance since they always competing. We ended up with some great processors at decent prices back then.

 

[TCG Member 5219]

I have been waiting for this for a while. Cant wait to build a system with one. It will be an 1800X system, with a 1080ti most likely.

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

Holy shit.

Not even out of the gate and it beat the world record for multi-threaded.


AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Achieves CPU World Record in Cinebench R15

AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Breaks Multi-Threaded CPU Performance World Record Before Launch Day

The record run shows a group of overclockers putting an AMD Ryzen 7 1800X chip through the test in Cinebench R15. The chip was cooled with LN2 and voltage was bumped to an outrageous 1.875V. This allowed the overclockers to push this chip to 5.2 GHz across all 8 cores using LN2 cooling which kept the chip operating at a cool -200c. This is absolutely amazing for a chip that is yet to be released for consumers.

At these speeds, the chip was able to score 2449 Cinebench points in the multi-threaded tests, breaking the previous world record of 2410 Cinebench points.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Well that's good so far

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

I mean yeah, its extreme overclocking. But the world record is held by those same standards. So I'm still feeling positive for Ryzen right now.

 

[TCG Member 5219]

I mean yeah, its extreme overclocking. But the world record is held by those same standards. So I'm still feeling positive for Ryzen right now.

Its a good sign, but doesnt really prove much. Im sure they were given a binned chip. But still promising.

Although remember you can basically OC a Kaby lake 7700k to 5ghz on air now. I know 4/8 is not 8/16, but again single thread performance and IPC really matter most for gaming atleast. Cinebench is just a benchmark.

 

[bikrboy128]

I know 4/8 is not 8/16, but again single thread performance and IPC really matter most for gaming atleast. Cinebench is just a benchmark.

this. the ryzen 7 1700 is set to be price at $329 (i believe) on launch. if it doesn't outperform the 7700k in games, then what's the point? they're priced the same with the 7700k being on sale at times for even lower than that. swinging a big dick in benchmark programs really doesn't mean much to me, show an in game performance increase over the intel. give the gamers (who don't stream/video render) to buy red over intel. force intel to either innovate and improve their product or match amd pricing

 

[TCG Member 5219]

this. the ryzen 7 1700 is set to be price at $329 (i believe) on launch. if it doesn't outperform the 7700k in games, then what's the point? they're priced the same with the 7700k being on sale at times for even lower than that. swinging a big dick in benchmark programs really doesn't mean much to me, show an in game performance increase over the intel. give the gamers (who don't stream/video render) to buy red over intel. force intel to either innovate and improve their product or match amd pricing

Honestly I thought I read that they were pretty much aiming for all the 6 and 8 core Intel CPUs. I dont think they are going for the pure gamers with the 7600k and 7700k. They are all wrapped up in "content creators". Man I HATE that millennial hipster bullshit term for youtuber.

But back on topic, they are looking at taking the market share from Intel for the bigger Broadwell-E CPUs. I mean why buy a 6900k for $1000, when you can get a 1800x for $500? Same or better performance, for half the price.

 

[bikrboy128]

But back on topic, they are looking at taking the market share from Intel for the bigger Broadwell-E CPUs. I mean why buy a 6900k for $1000, when you can get a 1800x for $500? Same or better performance, for half the price.

that'd be fantastic. drive intel to either lower their CPU cost or make a better product. definitely not trying to bash AMD, in fact AMD is the first CPU i used to build a PC. back in the athlon days amd had a better CPU for way less money. i had an athlon 3000 series (fuck if i can remember exactly) coupled with an ati 9800xt that shit all over the comparable intel/nvidia setup of that time.

i hope ryzen/vega gets us back to that type of competition

 

[Chester Copperpot]

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Vs Core i7 7700K Gaming Benchmarks Leaked

Seems like the 1700 is the "entry level" enthusiast chip being compared against the high middle tier enthusiast Intel chip.

bamanotbad:

 

[TCG Member 5219]

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Vs Core i7 7700K Gaming Benchmarks Leaked

Not looking good for gaming at least.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Not looking good for gaming at least.

Destroyed it for multithreading though

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Eh, I couldn't careless about cinebench testing. And the real-world gaming testing is still fucking great. Average 80 FPS? zero fucks if it can get 200 FPS at 1080p.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Eh, I couldn't careless about cinebench testing. And the real-world gaming testing is still fucking great. Average 80 FPS? zero fucks if it can get 200 FPS at 1080p.

Yeah it's still only 3 frames behind for average frame rate which is pretty good.

Anything past 60+ is fine for me

 

[Chester Copperpot]

My 4790k and 980ti still max out GTAV with a solid, locked 60 fps. The only time it moves just a smidge is when the whole server decides to face fuck each other at the helo pad by the docks or the airport.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

I hope this starts forcing more games to be designed for multithreading. It's silly that alot still don't support it. Just like SLI.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

8 core, 16 thread $1000 dollar Intel X processor.

One core, two threads pegged during gaming.

 

[TCG Member 5219]

8 core, 16 thread $1000 dollar Intel X processor.

One core, two threads pegged during gaming.

Tell me about it. I went from the 4790k to the 6700k, then to the 5820k. Then back to the 6700k because the 5820k didnt do better at all.

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

I'm thinking the Ryzen is going to make one hell of a NAS/Plex setup. All that multi-threading is excellent for the types of things home servers would do. Handbrake probably loves them.

 

[Pewter-Camaro]

If it offers similar performance for 1/2 the price I'll go AMD. My current computer is an AMD 8350 for that reason and have been thinking of a new build. Hmmm..