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Old 02-07-2017, 11:31 AM   #76
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If you are talking about towing a camper with this, that is a lot of surface area to catch wind resistance. It won't be comparable with a boat or open trailer. How far do you plan on towing said camper?
really depends on the boat too... a pontoon on a bunk trailer is similar in height to a travel trailer.
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Would it be on par with weight and surface area of a 24' camper? I really don't know. It seems like a pontoon would have more air passing under and over it leading to less wind resistance.
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:38 AM   #78
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Would it be on par with weight and surface area of a 24' camper? I really don't know. It seems like a pontoon would have more air passing under and over it leading to less wind resistance.
the truck blocks most of what could possibly go under it, it's moreover that it's like pulling a barn door sticking up 4-5 feet taller than the tow vehicle. which is the issue a travel trailer will have too.

empty weight, maybe comparable? the pontoon in the pics that i posted is around 5k with trailer and batterys and gear i'd guess. 30-32' long on the trailer iirc too to the tip of the engine. load the camper up with stuff though and a 30' camper would probably be heavier id think.
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typically travel trailers are snugged RIGHT up against the tow vehicle too. boats seem to be set back a good amount.
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Makes sense.
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fuck i dont know.



i need a wind tunnel.
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Definitely not a TBSS with a 4000 stall
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worth mentioning of course here, but perhaps even more important than engine, is gear ratio.

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It's been eons since I've been here, so excuse me, but I loves me my GM trucks, so when I see a thread... As an owner of some 30 GM trucks over my time, including Tahoe's and Suburban's (including my current GMT400 Suburban), and formerly being a GM tech that worked on them for a living, I love to talk GM trucks.

Anything 1/2 ton, in the GMT800 or GMT900, you're gonna be disappointed. If you want to stay 1/2, look for a really clean, low mileage, GMT400 OBS Suburban with the tried true L31 (old school SBC 350). It has better low end torque than the GenIII motor in the GMT800+ gens. I've had about 6k behind the hitch on mine (a GMT400) several times now and other than the front end pointed at the sky (which was in-part due to my torsion bars cranked up in winter to support the weight of my plow), I had zero issues moving it at normal traffic conditions here.

Going 3/4 ton (which is what I will be doing shortly), the problem with GMT900's, is that you're limited to a 6.0L motor. Not that the 6.0L motor is bad, but a 2500 Suburban is going to be hovering around 6,500 pounds alone (with just a driver and basic stuff in it... My half ton, with my fat arse in it was 6,300 pounds when I tared out on the scale dropping metal off). Add on a 4k - 5k trailer and you're at 10,500 - 11,500 pounds of total weight being moved. That's a lot of heft to move. Start adding passengers, gear, etc, and that starts to increase quickly.

Where I am looking, is a late model GMT800 2500 (2005/2006). Why? You can get the 8.1L Big Block V8. You're stuck with a 4L85E, but at least you won't be lacking any torque to move things. The downside is lackluster fuel economy. The last 8.1 I owned (granted it had an Allison behind it), was ~9mpg on a good day. In winter, at times having it in 4WD for extended periods of time, 6 - 7 mpg was to be expected.

With that said, I am about to be putting my '99 OBS GMT400 up for sale. Thinking we're most of the way through February, and hoping we're gonna be out of the woods for snow, I won't need it to plow, and would rather get a nice chunk of $$$ for a down payment on exactly what I'm looking for (what I posted above... GMT800 with a BBC).
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John, I almost went and bought this after they dropped it another $1,000... The ONLY thing I did not like about it was the long bed. But for a free plow... I'll sell the Boss and truck side portion of the Boss setup and put my Western Ultra-Mount on. However, I went up last Saturday night after hours and crawled around/under it, and it had as much rust as my 18 y/o Suburban, the Allison spin-on filter was completely rusted, which makes me wonder about maintenance (my last Allison I changed that every 5k - 10k), and the oil filter mount area was leaking oil... It did look to have newer front shocks though...

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I like it too, especially how clean the interior is. My beef is the long bed. My Suburban is border line too long to manuver now, this truck would be another 2-3ft longer. My house in WeGo is on an alley making it tight to turn around with all that length now, then the court here in Elgin, I can't do a tight circle to follow the center island as it is now.

We'll see. If they drop it another thousand or two. I might be MORE interested then.
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