Are the modern muscle cars coming to an end?

[Rent Free]

America's Muscle Car Sales Are Falling Off

i blame it 100% on cost.

1. the 6th generation Camaro is still too fucking expensive.
2. i am still pissed about the 2016 GT350 mandatory options and price hike aswell.

3. hmm maybe i wasnt losing my mind when ive said a 284854965 times the 10k markup for a comparable camaro and the price hike on the GT350 is bullshit.

Hmmm does dwindling sales mean I was right?

Have the modern muscle cars price tags gone up enough people are finally saying and

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[Gone_2022]

Came in expecting this thread to be about the modern muscle shop, left disappointed

 

[P40E]

You don't need to buy a gt350 to get muscle . Thats why ford gives you a v8 engine option . American cars around/over 400 hp are muscle cars in my standards .

 

[Bru]

Nope. Passenger car sales (meaning non-SUVs) are down as a whole. Not unique to muscle cars.

 

[Rent Free]

was wondering that too. the whole new vehicle sales are down across the board then?

 

[P40E]

And I believe mopar just got caught lying about overall sales .

 

[syP]

weird... didnt know that running high 11s low 12s for $39k with a full factory warranty in todays money was.. expensive

I think "muscle cars" are cheaper than ever.

 

[Bru]

was wondering that too. the whole new vehicle sales are down across the board then?

Not necessarily. SUV, truck, minivan sales are doing much better than sedan, coupe, hatchback sales:

Auto Sales - Markets Data Center - WSJ.com

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

The car manufacturers are on crack. Jack the prices and wonder why sales are falling

 

[Yaj Yak]

you can get brand new 5.0 mustangs for under 30k.

i fail to see the pricing issue.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

good job naming 1 v8 for under 30k....base as fuck too

 

[Yaj Yak]

good job naming 1 v8 for under 30k....base as fuck too

okay, one of 3 muscle cars that are out right now...

you can get challengers with 5.7s for similar prices i'd bet too.

good job making a valid point...

 

[Yaj Yak]

it's not price. at all.

it's the market.

back in the day, 16-40 whatever year old males cared about going fast, looking cool, and horsepower.

now, most 16-40 year old males care about if their baby seats will fit in the back of their crossover & how quickly the bluetooth connects.

car modding & enthusiasm is dying, and with that muscle cars.

 

[YoushallgoFo]

link to brand new mustang for under 30k.

 

[Yaj Yak]

it's really not that hard...

 

[YoushallgoFo]

im not seeing any

 

[P40E]

link to brand new mustang for under 30k.

Dealers already have 17 mustangs . Wait a few more months you will see 16 prices fall .

 

[Yaj Yak]

look harder :wink:




https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/668419074/overview/






https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/663839764/overview/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/666787936/overview/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/668600222/overview/

 

[YoushallgoFo]

oh ok in other states I guess.

 

[Yaj Yak]

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/677463078/overview/ not under 30k but close enough and in IL

 

[SleeperLS]

I think the cost has to do with all the options and accessories that are in cars these days as well as safety equipment. All of those things jack car prices up quick. I do think the costs are a bit ridiculous when the average income for middle class isn't exactly leaving people with a lot of money left over to compensate for the increase cost in cars. Muscle cars got their popularity because they were fun and affordable for middle class IMO. A middle class American isn't exactly making enough money to keep up with modern muscle car costs these days. I mean you could have a stay at home mom and a dad working in a factory supporting 7 kids and owning a house. Good luck trying that today. It is suicide.

 

[Yaj Yak]

oh and it's a 17

 

[Yaj Yak]

I think the cost has to do with all the options and accessories that are in cars these days as well as safety equipment. All of those things jack car prices up quick. I do think the costs are a bit ridiculous when the average income for middle class isn't exactly leaving people with a lot of money left over to compensate for the increase cost in cars. Muscle cars got their popularity because they were fun and affordable for middle class IMO. A middle class American isn't exactly making enough money to keep up with modern muscle car costs these days. I mean you could have a stay at home mom and a dad working in a factory supporting 7 kids and owning a house. Good luck trying that today. It is suicide.

that's not it though. it's instead of dad driving a 35k mustang and jamming his kids in the back seat bouncing off the rear glass, he's buying an ecoboost ford edge and hammering the fuck down.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Bro those have like 50 miles. Used garbage

 

[Bru]

And those are advertised prices. Talk to anyone who has bought one and they'll tell you it's not hard to get a screaming deal through our sponsor.