Motor Trend Comparo - 2015 Camaro SS vs. 2015 Mustang GT
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Seems to be working perfectly well. The 1LE is a quick car on the track and the GT was 1.5 seconds within the Camaro’s lap times. The 15 Mustang is ~1.5 seconds quicker per lap than the 2012 GT driven by Pobst.
So all of that extra cost for 1.5 seconds quicker. I feel like that time could have been made up with a fraction of the cost of aftermarket stuff on the old mustang. I was more referring to the obnoxious amount of wheel hop this car now has due to the IRS. Doesnt really pertain to this vid though.
Not directed at you, but why are Mustang owners against progress? I’ve noticed a pattern amongst Mustang enthusiasts that they vehemently debate that the previous generation is so much better than the newer models. When the GT500 came out, Cobra guys were bitching about how it was a step back and cost more money. Fox body guys have their strawmens about newer gens.
Now the new GT is out and the S197 guys are making excuses. The new car from an engineering standpoint is a leap forward from the S197. The S550 chassis is more refined, rides better, is stiffer, handles better, brakes better, etc. While we can nit pick the exterior design as that’s a matter of opinion, but the data shows that the 2015 is a better performance car.
As for cost, the increase is due to refinement -primarily interior refinement and options. If you were to load up a previous gen with similar options, they come close to $40K MSRP. Also, Ford was heavily discounting Mustangs the last few years because they weren't selling particularly well.
Now the new GT is out and the S197 guys are making excuses. The new car from an engineering standpoint is a leap forward from the S197. The S550 chassis is more refined, rides better, is stiffer, handles better, brakes better, etc. While we can nit pick the exterior design as that’s a matter of opinion, but the data shows that the 2015 is a better performance car.
As for cost, the increase is due to refinement -primarily interior refinement and options. If you were to load up a previous gen with similar options, they come close to $40K MSRP. Also, Ford was heavily discounting Mustangs the last few years because they weren't selling particularly well.
The 1LE has always been about better handling since 1988. Not surprised one bit that it handles better than the Mustangs performance package. And the wheel package on the 1LE alone is worth the cost. The way it fills up the wheel well looks fantastic. With the new redesigned front and rear facias on the Camaro and the 1LE package. This is a real winner. Throw a little boost at it and you would ALMOST have the best of the Z-28 and ZL-1 wrapped into one car.
I have noticed this as well. I would't really call myself a mustang guy, i just own one. I was a die hard GM guy until 2011. I do like the interior a lot, and have always been outgoing about that. I do see your point about flaming on new models. SVTP has opened my eyes to the world that is Ford lol.
Personally, I was just hoping for a bit more out of the IRS. Seeing how bad the wheel hop and weight transfer is...
I won't be taking the car to a road course or autoX so I don't care about one car being faster than the other and if I was going to blast around a road course the first thing I'd buy is shocks and stickier rubber anyways. Which leads me to the fact I do really like the 1LE SS and like how it feels when I test drove one. Problem is its more expensive and I still hate the goofy interior and shit vision out of the car with a passion. For me a its still a Base Mustang GT and put some good Koni shocks on it, lower it a bit, adjust it until I like how it feels, and toss on some wider rubber and be done.
I agree with you about the road course point. The point that video made to me was that the Camaro is more fun to drive. It must have been said a dozen times. To me that's what makes the biggest difference. Would tires and shocks change that? Maybe, but for some reason I doubt it.
Also I don't know if you were comparing the 1LE price to a base GT? But in this video the Camaro was cheaper.
Theres no reason why ford couldn't get the mustang to match the 1le in handling performance especially at the price they ask. It's not like the 1le is this stripped down race car. Whether a new set of shocks will help the ford or not, out of the box the car didn't impress MT and thats why it lost. All MT cares about is which car is better stock.
The Performance Pack isn’t as aggressive as the 1LE. Maybe Ford left it a little softer to differentiate from the Boss or Shelby?
Arguably the biggest difference in the two is that the Mustang once again comes under-tired from the factory. The Camaro has 285’s all around.
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