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Old 12-13-2017, 09:24 PM   #1
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Ford needs to step their game up gt350r is actual shit compared to the zl1 1le. Esp with the cooling fiasco with the gt350s

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Ford needs to step their game up gt350r is actual shit compared to the zl1 1le. Esp with the cooling fiasco with the gt350s


The GT350R cost less, makes less hp, weighs more, has garbage tires compared to the ZL1 1LE and not as wide, ect. ect.
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The GT350R cost less, makes less hp, weighs more, has garbage tires compared to the ZL1 1LE and not as wide, ect. ect.
Cost less? The track version is right around the 70k mark. Same as the zl1 1le.

They are comparable cars in the same class, with comparable prices. Gt350r performance is shit though.







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Cost less? The track version is right around the 70k mark. Same as the zl1 1le.

They are comparable cars in the same class, with comparable prices. Gt350r performance is shit though.







Good job lets see

GT350 $57045 vs. ZL1 $62135 hmmm yup Fords 5k less

now

GT350R $64545 vs. ZL1 1LE $69995 yup Ford cost over 5k less again

You cant math very well



Ohh and btw the rear tires on the GT350R are 305s thats the same as the fronts on the ZL1 1LE the rears are 325s so yes the ford has smaller tires all around too.

Ohh and how about weight Fords GT350 4555 and the ZL1 1LE is sub 4000 to 3837 thats a gigantic difference in weight.

Ford uses magride suspension while the ZL1 1LE uses multimatic dssv spoolvalve dampners (way better thats f1 car shiz)

Info here

https://www.google.com/amp/www.motor...st-review/amp

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https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/mu...0-gt350r/specs


So again the Ford makes less hp, weighs more, has garbage tires compared to the ZL1 1LE and not as wide, ZL1 1LE has better suspension components, but the Ford cost less.

The Camaro out guns the Ford in every aspect except price but its got the HP and hardware to warrant that cost.

Both are a hell of a bargain IMO and i still would rather have a damn GT350 that engine alone is worth price of admission.
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Its a mere 5k difference. The pricing is very similar considering dealer markup for both cars will vary.

You're grasping for straws.
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Its a mere 5k difference. The pricing is very similar considering dealer markup for both cars will vary.

You're grasping for straws.
Right good luck getting a R or ZL1 1LE for MSRP im not arguing with you im stating the specs listed

Ford cost less but the Camaro beats it in every single other aspect.

More hp = gooder
Better suspension = gooder again
Better wider tires = gooder x3
Weighs less = even more gooder
Cost more = meh its the better car
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The point is the two cars are direct competitors and the gt350r is garbage.

Ford needs to step their game up
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garbage? really?

I mean I wouldn't kick one out of bed for eating crackers.
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You can buy a new ZL1 for under sticker now. I paid under sticker for my SS
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garbage? really?

I mean I wouldn't kick one out of bed for eating crackers.
Right? I mean I don't have the money for one, but if I did I don't think Id drive one and get out and be like "Garbage!" and walk away.
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Yes garbage. The fiasco with the cooling system and its poor performance for sticker price... not to mention looks like a damn honda accord.

Ford miserably failed with that car
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Bro, calm your nutswingin'.

This thing is sexy as fuck and sounds sexy as fuck.










I can 100% say that it looks better than this. for sure.

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It's a better car in every aspect. That's not nut swinging, those are facts.
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looks are subjective... as are sounds... so.


Just because the zl1 with a professional driver will outhandle and out perform a gt350r with the same professional, doesn't necessarily make it complete garbage.
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Yep, If I owned a 350R I would just hope and pray nobody parked next to me with their Accord so I didn't get confused.
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*finds basic ass shit photo of zl1*

*compares it to other professional better shot photos*

At least use an image on the same level of quality. Talk about nut swingin

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Yep, If I owned a 350R I would just hope and pray nobody parked next to me with their Accord so I didn't get confused.

I dont even know how one could attribute those together.

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*finds basic ass shit photo of zl1*

*compares it to other professional better shot photos*

At least use an image on the same level of quality. Talk about nut swingin

right, im the biggest ford nutswinger on this site. silly me.

I googlged each car and took a pic from the top 3-4 rows.

sorry it didn't fit your agenda.
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Yep, If I owned a 350R I would just hope and pray nobody parked next to me with their Accord so I didn't get confused.


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You also keep bringing up the cooling issues, they had the same problem with the new vettes if I recall. So are they all garbage as well?

There's bound to be growing pains, especially when doing a different style of engine for the first time.

In any case, I'm done talking about the 350, I don't see myself buying a GT500, but can't wait to see it done!

Then they need to do a 30th anniversary Cobra in 2023 and I'll buy that.
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Yes garbage. The fiasco with the cooling system and its poor performance for sticker price... not to mention looks like a damn honda accord.

Ford miserably failed with that car
What is the cooling issue you are talking about? The 2016 non-R, I'm not gonna include the 2015 as they were turned into race cars or sit in collections with 1 mile on them, that people didn't order the track pack and had trans temp issues? The small number of people who had that issue? Is that the fiasco you are talking about? haha The 2017 models got all the cooler upgrades for non-R cars as well. Even the guys who had problems didn't seem fit to get rid of the car for it either. lol Maybe you are thinking of he Vette and it's cooling issues?


And the GT350 isn't a direct competitor to the ZL1 1LE. The old Z28 maybe, not the ZL1. Sorry, a 150+ hp difference doesn't put them in the same category other than price. The R you can get at sticker and non-R under sticker.

I like the ZL1 but calling the GT350 garbage? How long is your mullet?
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ah shit.
two door cars with headlights, wheels, and tires DO LOOK SIMILAR

i've seen the light now.



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how do we get the mustang forum guys to show up again?

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