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Old 12-14-2017, 09:38 AM   #51
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Wait, didn't the GT350R debut in 2016MY?


& didn't the ZL1 1LE just debut (2018MY)?


If GM couldn't outrun a car that's been out for 2 years with their top model then they're as garbage as you're thinking the GT350 is.


It's called competition.
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https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100

Here's his information. Since we're basing lap times to determine what's "garbage" anything slower than the GT350R qualifies right?

Pagani Zonda F? Garbage.
Porsche 911 GT3? Garbage
Koenigsegg CCX? Garbage.
Koenigsegg CCR? Garbage.
Audi R8? Garbage. (I hope Turk doesn't see this!)
Nissan GT-R Spec-V? Garbage.
RUF RT12? Garbage.
Camaro Z28 (more the competition than ZL!)? Garbage.


The number 100 car on the garbage list.... Ferarri F430. Garbage.

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nurburgring times are the only metric off of which to base car purchases. /thread.
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7 seconds slower around the ring than the Ferrari Enzo? What a hunk of shit.
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Does an F-350 or 3500 Duramax do the 'ring faster? Need to know if I look at new haulers soon.
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Hopefully nobody on here buys a Donkervoort D8 RS and comes in here to call a ZL1 1LE garbage....

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Sorry you can't even keep up with updated information. Do a google search. I now see this thread is pointless considering you don't even know the lap time.

BTW it's #42 now
I don't need to google it. I asked the Ford Performance Chief Engineer at Ford.


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Wait, didn't the GT350R debut in 2016MY?
Technically there was a limited production of 2015MY.

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Does an F-350 or 3500 Duramax do the 'ring faster? Need to know if I look at new haulers soon.
Let's go do this ourselves. So in!
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So, a 2018 new gen SUPERCHARGED ZL1 is being compared to a car that is N/A and debuted in 2016 with 150HP less?

GT<>SS
GT350/350R <>Z/28
GT500<>ZL1

That's how it's been for many years. Somehow, we are twisting this and now its:

GT<>SS
GT350/350R <>ZL1 1LE
GT500<>V6 Camaro
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Holy shit. This thread went FULL RETARD
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oh wait i remember

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LOL what just happened here . guy that drives a turd gen Camaro calls a GT350R garbage. I bet Toyota Prius can turn better then turd gen Camaro
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It's like the damn bat signal for termi owners.
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I just want to listen to the flat plane crank all damn day. Is that too much to ask?
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To be fair, this is his beef with the cooling issue too:

https://jalopnik.com/shelby-gt350-mu...ing-1793541621

People were buying them early on with the technology package instead of the track package and then taking them on the track and they were overheating the transmission and differential.

The coolers now come on all GT350's whether you buy the electronics package or not. They should have probably seen that issue coming, but assumed people who tracked the car would go for the track package.
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It's a better car in every aspect. That's not nut swinging, those are facts.
This has to be trolling........
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:35 AM   #68
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Bro, calm your nutswingin'.

This thing is sexy as fuck and sounds sexy as fuck.










I can 100% say that it looks better than this. for sure.

You're higher than the balls on a giraffe. The 350r wing is awful.

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You're higher than the balls on a giraffe. The 350r wing is awful..
This is better?

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Hell yes it is. It functional and looks a lot better.



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Looks are subjective. I think it looks horrible.

Don't like either if im being honest.
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I personally love the way the ZL1 1LE looks over the GT350 R. Same with the newer gen GT's. Chevy hit it out of the park with the 6th gen.
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I wish GM would put the 1LE ZL1 aero and brakes on the N/A 1LE car. Then we would have a direct comparison. The GT350 and 1LE in the same class IMO. You can also argue the ZL1 1LE (that's such a gay name, just call it the Z/28) and 350R are in the same class based on price point but the ZL1 out power the R.
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Im not a fan of saying cars are in the same class because of price point.... It's definitely more what Grabber laid out earlier.

So if the new GT500 comes out and runs a Nurburgring lap one tenth of a second faster than the ZL1 we get to call it hot garbage.... Should be interesting.
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I personally love the way the ZL1 1LE looks over the GT350 R. Same with the newer gen GT's. Chevy hit it out of the park with the 6th gen.
I'm the opposite. I don't think either are ugly by any stretch, just like the 350R look better.
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